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This article is the result of 2 years of investigation into "Phoenix Be", the man who falsely claims to be the official successor of Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
Phoenix—which is not his real name; his real identity will be revealed— is attempting the most hostile takeover of Aajonus' movement in its history. Not the first, but the most significant, as will also be shown.
He is a scammer and impostor, and he unscrupulously used the death of Aajonus' website partner Jim Ellingson as a means to further his agenda. He is also complicit with an abuser who participated in criminal actions, his associate Chris "eatrawmeat", and tried to silence Chris' victims with an NDA.
My articles on Phoenix have been read by thousands of visitors. 40% of Phoenix's coaches left due to our intervention, he was kicked out of the official Primal Diet organization because of it, and more. Not publicly addressing my accusations in a response article, and refusing to have a live debate to settle the topic, is a clear sign of guilt, if any other was needed at this point.
His other accomplices include his wife, Avyanna — whose role is significant and will be explained — and his other associates Sam Schulte, Kimberly Williams, and to a lesser extent, Jeff Slay, Betsy, and Tom Moestl, as well as the Youtuber Leo aka "residentraw", who is another scammer and abuser.
Phoenix's plan is to hijack the Primal Diet movement, by lying to people about his legitimacy, his intentions, and many other things, in order to use the money and promotion he gets from Aajonus' community and followers while he changes the Primal Diet covertly from "the inside" into something different: his own beliefs, many of which directly contradict Aajonus.
He is willing to do whatever it takes, even covering up criminal abuse, to achieve his life-long goal: obtaining 3 million dollars and then fulfilling his manifest destiny of becoming the savior of the world. His motives will be explained at the end, with a detailed analysis of his psychology through the prism of his biography, public speeches, and actions.
Considering the size of this article, a summary of the most important points is in order. This section has no media on purpose to stay as short as possible.
Everything that has happened recently has further confirmed the thesis I formed when the first problems with Phoenix arose. It has only gotten worse since.
Since February 2026, Phoenix claims publicly to be the official successor to Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
He says that Jim Ellingson was appointed by Aajonus as his successor,
and that Jim chose him in turn as his successor.
It is false, since Jim was never Aajonus' successor, he was his webmaster.
Why did Phoenix choose this timing, and not 2024, to make his announcement?
Phoenix waited for Jim to pass away (which happened in December 2025) to make his move, so that Jim couldn't contest his claims.
This makes Phoenix an impostor, with fake credentials.
Phoenix also claims to run the official Primal Diet website/organization. This was true in 2024, when Phoenix became part of the Primal Diet organization, under Paul Kruhm, who is the owner of Aajonus' two trusts Optimal Ways of Living and Right To Choose Healthy Food. However, the campaign I started here and my talks with Paul Kruhm led to Phoenix being removed from it, so Phoenix is no longer even part of the official Primal Diet organization at all. In spite of this, he decided to call his websites and organization the official Primal Diet, but it is another lie.
Phoenix tells people to consider taking supplements, one of the most toxic categories of items according to Aajonus, and to not eat cheese trains, which are one of the most important foods in the Primal Diet, that Aajonus spent his last workshop recommending with great insistence. Phoenix also lies about what Aajonus said on topics such as frozen meat, and lies about the diet Aajonus followed, like saying he was not drinking celery juice at the end of his life. The list goes on.
So neither in status, nor in spirit, is Phoenix a successor to Aajonus, or a representative of the Primal Diet.
I have also discovered disturbing information from 2021, indicating that Phoenix supported the first person who attempted a hostile takeover of the Primal Diet movement, Kim-Mia Rudiger-Prybylski. He tried to delete all traces of it; however, I have the evidence, which led me to his real name, and more recent leaks from him also confirm it.
Phoenix is also involved in two other scandals.
When Phoenix was still working with Paul Kruhm, before getting kicked out by him, Phoenix was attacking aajonus.net, the most complete archive of Aajonus' texts, with $20,000 spent by Caveman on making new transcripts of the audio and video. Phoenix was going as far as berating people who posted screenshots of that website, making them delete it. Now that Phoenix is no longer in the official Primal Diet organization, he is suddenly promoting aajonus.net directly on the homepage of primaldiet.net. This is a good change, which we take credit for, by forcing him out of the organization that he tried to take over. However, it is one of many indications that Phoenix has no principles, and will do what suits him at the moment, even if it means doing a complete 180 on a previous stance.
Even worse, Phoenix lied to the public, telling them that Aajonus' unreleased data doesn't exist. This was a lie made by Paul, who told Phoenix to post it when they were still working together, and Phoenix complied. Instead of letting Paul reply himself publicly to my accusations, Phoenix acted as a proxy, and completely disregarded the overwhelming evidence I presented about all kinds of unreleased data existing. This makes Phoenix a sell-out.
As a side-note: Paul Kruhm is now working with David Frasier, which wasn't the case before. These two people hold the key to Aajonus' unreleased data being published, Paul has the laptop and the rights, David has the hard drives. Hopefully, there will be results soon.
Last, but not least, Phoenix is complicit with an abuser of a criminal nature, Chris "Eatrawmeat". Chris gratuitously abused people in the community, together with other people, participated prominently in harassment campaigns which included doxing, leaking women's nudes, falsely accusing people of pedophilia, trying to destroy Primal Diet groups, and more. Phoenix didn't know this at first, but we warned him before their first conference. He refused to do anything about it, not even to get a simple apology, let alone to stop promoting an unapologetic Chris using Aajonus' brand, which was official at the time (though it is no longer official, despite their claims). Phoenix promised, however, that under his leadership, Chris would at least stop, but Chris kept defaming the people he abused, and Phoenix didn't do anything once again. Even worse, Phoenix and his board, through Kimberly, sent an NDA to the people Chris abused, attempting to silence them, so they could never talk about the topic ever again, and wouldn't even be able to defend themselves legally against Chris' abuse. This makes Phoenix and his board who went along with it complicit with Chris' abuse, including the criminal abuse, by actively covering it up.
Phoenix is also defaming me in private to people, only in private where it is harder to contest. He says my guides are written by AI, when he was in my group the first time I posted them, in 2020, 2 years before ChatGPT, the modern-era AI, was released, and several other lies I will address.
Many people have talked to Phoenix about these issues, including people who knew Aajonus, to no avail. He sometimes promises to think about it, but no change occurs. Phoenix lists a "non confrontational speech" credential on his website, so he is a professional nice-talker.
Phoenix tries to contact as many influencers on social media as possible to get them to promote him, work with him, and get people to attend his conferences and buy his services and products. About 40% of the coaches that worked with him dropped him due to the scandals presented here, many people who discovered the past articles on him and Chris drop him, cancel their conference attendance, etc., but he is trying to grow faster than the rate at which people drop him, hoping to reach a critical mass. Do keep sharing this page to warn as many people as possible. I receive many messages from those people, who were shocked to learn about this hostile takeover and all the associated scandals, and share with me discrepancies they had noticed from their interactions with Phoenix. Several will be posted anonymously. Phoenix has a right to answer to my accusations and I would post his reply in full here, on this page, however he doesn't, because he is guilty. He also does two-hour calls with many people, but refuses to do one with me, knowing well he wouldn't be able to dodge the evidence in a live call.
All the evidence and details will now be posted below, organized in sections, with commentary. The sections cover different topics and are not in chronological order, but dates are given every time.
It's been 2 years since Phoenix started his scamming, and he is just getting more radical in his actions. He is now no longer just a scammer, but an impostor.
Phoenix fraudulently claims to be the official successor of Aajonus, using the death of Aajonus' website partner, Jim Ellingson, to anchor his lie.
Phoenix made the announcement publicly for the first time in February 2026, on a Facebook page he took over by tricking the uninformed admin.
This is Phoenix writing here, saying that Teresa Ann Foxworthy gave him the Primal Diet Facebook page, and that he is Aajonus' official successor, since Jim Ellingson would have been the successor Aajonus chose, and that Jim chose Phoenix in turn as his successor.




Aajonus and official Primal Diet representative 
This is a lie.
Jim Ellingson was never Aajonus' successor, he was a client whom Aajonus contracted to create a website. Jim was never a Primal Diet coach.
This is well-known and obvious, but it can be proven easily.
This is a text Jim wrote, where he clearly says that he didn't know what to do when Aajonus died. In that text, he literally says that there was no Aajonus replacement to give people coaching.
Jim didn't inherit Aajonus' trusts or any of his intellectual property rights, he was just a contractor for the website. It's Paul Kruhm, who was Aajonus' publisher, and who himself does not follow the Primal Diet for the most part, who owns them. Had Jim been the successor, he would have inherited those instead of Paul.
Aajonus never chose a successor. Jim never claimed to be Aajonus' successor. Phoenix is lying about it.




In 2024, Phoenix entered the Primal Diet organization through Jim Ellingson, who had a contract with it and was managing Aajonus' website.
Jim was old, sick, and was looking for someone to take over the website, mailing list, and other such assets, which is what Phoenix offered to do.
Jim, who according to people, was no longer as mentally sharp and lucid in his last years, trusted Phoenix and gave him everything for a symbolic dollar, without even asking Paul Kruhm.
Immediately upon taking over Jim's website, emails, etc., Phoenix told people Jim was "prioritizing the completion of his life".
When Jim died, I was the only person in the Aajonus-related world to make a public announcement about it. Phoenix did it months later to promote his lie about being the official successor at the same time.
Phoenix waited for Jim to die to put words in his mouth, so that Jim couldn't contest his claims.
Phoenix also makes two other lies in that announcement post: claiming he created in-depth websites for Primal Diet content. He didn't; primaldiet.net already existed and he brought nothing new to it except a couple blog posts. He also claimed that his website, that he received from Jim, is the "new", "authorized", and "official" Primal Diet website, which is not true, since Paul Kruhm, who owns Aajonus' trusts, says that Phoenix is no longer allowed to sell Aajonus' works.
The same day, Phoenix made another post where he said again that Jim Ellingson was Aajonus' official successor and called Jim a pioneer, a trailblazer on par with Aajonus, making his lie even more ridiculous. Jim didn't participate in the evolution of the Primal Diet.
Phoenix wrote this narrative all over the Facebook page.
Phoenix even writes on his website that the paid Primal Diet archive he is trying to sell you contains content made by Aajonus and Jim, as if Jim created any content.
Paul Kruhm, who is the owner of Aajonus' trusts, says on his new website the-primal-diet.com that Phoenix is no longer allowed to sell Aajonus' works, and is doing so in illegality, as can be seen on the "about" page.
This is just another confirmation that Phoenix is not official whatsoever and is lying about it.
Before Phoenix lied about being the official successor of Aajonus, he was already lying about his credentials in 2024, but more subtly.
Phoenix wrote back then, in an email to someone who was asking him about my accusations, that he was part of Aajonus' planning team for his retreat center in Thailand. However, he offers no proof of it. The only thing we know about that project is from Aajonus' own words, where he said he had dozens of applications and would aggressively screen them. People would have to know his books "back to front" to be accepted, and Phoenix clearly doesn't, as is made abundantly clear in the content review.
He is speaking about himself in the third person in this email.
He also tried to post similar things through someone he knew in one of my group chats.
This made me realize he was testing the waters and was planning to trick people further by presenting false credentials.
We do not even know for sure how much Phoenix knew Aajonus. Many people knew Aajonus, met him, hosted him. Many people around him also betrayed him during his life. Knowing Aajonus is not an achievement. However, Phoenix has told people very strange stories to people about Aajonus, making it easy to put in doubt if those anecdotes are true or not, and therefore how much Phoenix really knew Aajonus.
Phoenix also made a new claim: he and his group members would apparently have legal rights to some of Aajonus' rights. This was told to me by someone who knew Aajonus and who talked to him.
However, this is once again a completely unproven claim. The rights to Aajonus' works are owned by the trusts, which are owned by Paul Kruhm. Phoenix only owns the website primaldiet.net which Jim sold him for $1 and which is only a platform with no rights to Aajonus' works associated with it.
The first thing that happened when Phoenix took over primaldiet.net in 2024, was that he added this red band on top of the primaldiet.net website. Not only is it off-putting, even threatening, for visitors, but Phoenix's intentions were clear: to shut down websites like aajonus.net.
In his Signal group, Phoenix went as far as making people delete screenshots of aajonus.net, even though they were technically just Aajonus quotes. Phoenix also uses the word "plagiarizes" incorrectly. Plagiarism is when you copy someone's work and present it as your own. It is important to note that aajonus.net has 2x more content than primaldiet.net since Caveman paid $20,000 to transcribe every audio and video. This means there is a lot of content that can only be found there. Caveman did this in 1 year and with his own money, more than primaldiet.net did in 11 years.
Now, because of our campaign, Phoenix completely inverted his stance and promotes aajonus.net directly on the homepage of primaldiet.net. This was only made possible because we raised the 3 scandals Phoenix is involved in, and forced him out of the official Primal Diet organization, so now Phoenix takes revenge on Paul Kruhm by promoting aajonus.net.
However, the website he damaged the most was perhaps Aajonus' own website that he took over. He broke the search function, which was the main feature Aajonus created the website for. He also made many articles that were previously free into paywalled pages. He called this the "new and improved website".
Aajonus created that website in 2004-2006 (at the time it was wewant2live.com) because he wanted to have a search bar which could let every user find occurrences of keywords in all his texts. This was inspired by his use of legal websites which impressed him.
That was its main purpose, and Phoenix broke it.
Instead, Phoenix puts funnels that lead to his scam so-called "Primal Diet" coaching business, which itself has links everywhere that lead to his personal business, Blossom&Be (which has very little to do with Primal Diet, and many things opposed to it).
In a newsletter about Jim's passing, Phoenix also lied about Aajonus' website. He said:
Phoenix Be:After Aajonus' passing, Jim was overwhelmed with questions from clients that he had a difficult time answering as he was not a coach. His response was to send people to We Want to Live and The Recipe for Living Without Disease.
Then, Jim enlisted volunteers and gathered content to create products from Aajonus' original works. All of these, Jim archived on PrimalDiet.net and the search function was the final feature added to allow members to easily search the entirety of Aajonus' works.
Jim worked tirelessly on the Primal Diet project, for very little compensation, up until June 2025, when he officially retired and handed the torch over to our Health Freedom Network Ministries Trust which is run by our board of Primal Diet trustees.
First of all, you can see that Phoenix himself says Jim was not a coach, contradicting the lie of Jim being Aajonus' official successor and a health pioneer. These lies are poorly thought out.
Second, Phoenix makes a nonsensical statement, saying that Jim added the search feature on the website as the "final feature" after Aajonus died. This couldn't be more wrong. The reason the website got created in 2006 is specifically because Aajonus wanted this feature, it was the very first feature, and the reason for the website existing. This proves that Phoenix didn't use the website while Aajonus was alive, and knows very little about Aajonus' works.
Lastly, the unpaid volunteer, Per-Olof who also managed the website for years with Jim Ellingson was not mentioned. Per saw live how Phoenix destroyed the website he had spent years taking care of.
In response to our campaign and the massive amount of emails they were receiving, demanding the release of Aajonus' unreleased data, Phoenix lied to the public, telling them that Aajonus' unreleased data doesn't exist in an article he posted on his website.
Source: In Search of the Lost Ark
This was a lie made by Paul, who told Phoenix to post it when they were still working together, and Phoenix complied. Instead of letting Paul reply himself publicly to my accusations, Phoenix acted as a proxy, and completely disregarded the overwhelming evidence I presented about all kinds of unreleased data existing.
I have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt on this website that a lot of unreleased Aajonus data exists, both his own works, and consultation data from clients that were given to Paul and Jim and never published. I have shown video clips where Paul himself says he has data, on multiple occasions.
This makes Phoenix a sell-out.
I discovered that Phoenix was linked to Kim-Mia, who tried to destroy the Primal Diet groups in 2021, and that he tried to erase all traces of his involvement there.
Kim Mia
First person who tried hijacking the Primal Diet community to turn it against Aajonus and almost succeeded, in 2021, and engaged in criminal defamation
Kim-Mia was someone who became an admin of the Facebook groups after I did. She presented herself as someone who was an expert in the Primal Diet for 17 years. Over 2 years, she progressively took people off Primal Diet, telling them to not eat red meat, dairy, and to take supplements. She did that mostly in private, DMing every member that was asking a question in the group, and getting them to pay consults to use a Rife machine from her partner Marla Moss. In her posts, she was rewriting piece by piece the definition of the Primal Diet. Does this sound familiar?
My stance was mostly passive, letting her do what she wanted, but occasionally asking questions in the comments of her posts, without entering into a confrontation, and letting people decide. Eventually, she tried to get me banned from both Facebook groups, which were the biggest online Primal Diet communities at the time, and needed pretexts to do it. She made a post accusing me of putting people's lives in jeopardy, and of harassing her, of being a vegan, and more. I did get banned by certain other admins who didn't even let me defend myself. Then one of Kim-Mia's accomplices, who was defaming me under a fake identity, leaked—to someone I knew and who I had put in contact with— a message of hers plotting to use Interpol to frame us for pedophilia; he got cold feet, and she hastily left. Other admins who I added in the admin panel ahead of time banned her and reinstated me, and I became the main admin in the Facebook group again. Afterwards, many people whose health, and in some cases personal lives, she had harmed came forward with testimonies.
The complete archive of this Kim-Mia hostile takeover attempt we thwarted is available below, you can click on it to expand it right here in the article, but the summary I posted above gives enough context about what she did, to understand Phoenix's involvement in it which I will explain next.
After about 2 years of common presence in the main Primal Diet Facebook group, and unsuccessfully trying to get me banned in that group, she left it, was made admin in the other group, banned me there, and made a post publicly attacking me, to which I replied:
However, before I could make my full reply, the admins of my group were pressured into banning me. Many people were outraged and defended me, others attacked me blindly (since there was no evidence), but other admins on my side reinstated me and removed the other irresponsible admins.
When this happened, after failing to remove the main contributor of the group, who was me, Kim-Mia wanted to take down the group altogether, a group which contains years of valuable information and has existed since Aajonus' times (he himself references it in some recordings).
That's when she made plans to plant child porn on our computers to send us admins (not just me) to jail.
I then posted my full reply to her accusations and attacks.
It started by showing Kim-Mia's plot of planting child porn that got leaked:
I then showed my success in helping people with Primal Diet, which Kim-Mia said doesn't work without her subversive changes:
I explained the Lisa incident in more detail, how Kim-Mia undid my help to a member I had met and damaged her noticeably:


The rest can be read directly on the slides I posted:












Kim-Mia told an intermediary that she wanted to de-escalate.
Kim-Mia confirmed the leaks were real. However, she thought I was the fake "Cedreana Johnson" account that had been attacking me. I wasn't. That person, who was also defaming me to get me kicked, got scared when Kim-Mia escalated into such criminal territory.
This is the message "Cedreana Johnson" (under another identity) sent to someone I know, which is how Kim-Mia's message got leaked. He was still covering his own lies but clearly distancing himself from Kim-Mia. His identity is known since he also did a video call, but won't be posted as it isn't necessary.
Kim-Mia realized her position was indefensible and made up an excuse to justify her exit.
Testimonies kept coming after her exit.
Despite a two-year buildup, the whole confrontation lasted less than 2 weeks.
In 2024, when searching for information about Phoenix, I first learned that Kim-Mia had been in contact with Phoenix, from posts in which she mentioned him by his new name "Phoenix Be". This raised the questions: How did they meet each other? Were they still in contact? This was merely a clue and light suspicion at the time.
However, after discovering Phoenix's true identity "Mihaly Bartalos", I once again searched in the Primal Diet Facebook group and found evidence of him colluding with her back then.
It turns out that Phoenix was a member of the Primal Diet Facebook group I run for years, and left it in 2021, right after Kim-Mia's takeover of the groups failed, when I got reinstated as admin and proved her guilt with 35 slides of evidence. He also deleted all his messages in the group before leaving it, and changed his account's name to "Vince Valiant", most likely so that it wouldn't be found.
Evidence:
A previous admin of our group mentioned "Mihaly Bartalos" (Phoenix before he changed his name) in the group, and the tagged name was greyed, indicating that Mihaly had left the Facebook group.
Hovering the name revealed that the account Phoenix/Mihaly used was now called "Vince Valiant", another nickname. The Vince Valiant account has a banner of a phoenix, further confirming it was him.
The profile shows he left the group on August 31, 2021, which is just a couple days after I got reinstated as admin in the group and made a post exposing Kim-Mia's plot, takeover attempt, criminal defamation, intent to plant fake pedophile evidence with Interpol, and evidence of her subverting the Primal Diet and harming people's health.
I rejoined the group Kim-Mia had gotten me banned from abusively and was reinstated as admin on August 13, 2021:
I could not find any message from Phoenix in the group, only people's replies to his now deleted messages in comment sections. It looked like he attempted to completely erase his presence from it.
When I found this, I knew that Phoenix/Mihaly left the group in support of Kim-Mia, I just needed one last confirmation.
That confirmation was delivered in the form of an email Phoenix sent to someone who shared it with us, where he says that he left the Facebook group because it had become "abusive", which was the main accusation Kim-Mia made against me in her post to smear me.
Phoenix saw my evidence, as well as people coming in support of me in comments, and decided to side with the person who attempted the hostile takeover, was guilty of defamation, and plotted criminal actions to send innocent people to jail.
And now he happens to be running a hostile takeover of his own, similarly claiming authority and changing the Primal Diet from the inside, through deception.
Phoenix is complicit with an abuser of a criminal nature in his Primal Diet takeover project. The co-founder of his "Primal Diet Coaching", Chris aka "eatrawmeat".
Chris has abused people for years, together with an online gang among whom were self-proclaimed and proven pedophiles, for entertainment and personal gain.
Since it would be too long to list all of Chris' wrongdoings and the evidence of it in this article, an entire article is dedicated to it on the following website: eatrawmeat.online.
See Chris' actions and the evidence.
Phoenix knows all of this, and despite many people having contacted him over it, he refuses to do anything about it.
Phoenix didn't care about what Chris had done to others, only that he had been respectful to him and supported his project, which is a given since Chris benefits from Phoenix's project as the co-founder of it. Phoenix even went as far as asking us to promote it, and called Chris' criminal abuse and continued defamation and harassment "past grievances", a dismissive, callous, selfish and irresponsible attitude, unfit for the role he claims to have.
He only gave a guarantee that under his direction, Chris would at least stop. However, Chris keeps defaming the people he abused, and when Phoenix was shown the evidence of it, he still didn't stop him, breaking his word.
Even worse, Phoenix became complicit in covering up for Chris' abuse and attacking his victims, by trying to make them sign an NDA to silence them and even prevent them from seeking legal recourse against Chris. The NDA was delivered to me by their coach Kimberly Williams, after validation from Phoenix's "Primal Planitz" board, according to her.
Instead, Phoenix keeps promoting Chris at the forefront of his project, as the "young generation" legacy of Aajonus, forces people to watch Chris' video if they want to participate in their group calls, and so on. The least decency would have been to keep Chris backstage.
Phoenix and Chris doing a photoshoot at the 2025 conference.
Primal Diet 101 is, by the way, the name of the guide I published in 2020 on the Facebook and Telegram groups where Phoenix and Chris were members in, respectively. The similar naming may be a coincidence, but they were both aware of it, as it was the main guide that everyone was sharing and following. I have now renamed that guide into a book "The Primal Diet" (available on the homepage of this website).
Another side note: Phoenix lies, telling people to not follow it, accusing me of having written it with AI, however he knows very well I wrote it myself, since I published it in 2020 and it was the pinned post when he was still in my group, years before ChatGPT, the modern LLM-AI came out.
40% of coaches left Phoenix's Primal Diet Coaching project. Many left outright before their first event even took place. From those who were added later to the project, several left too. another coach that left
In 2024, they pleaded through multiple accounts, asking me not to come. Phoenix only kept replying to me because there was a risk I would. Then he stopped replying and only started replying again when he got around 5-10 people emailing him about the Chris scandal. He thought "How many people does Rom carry with him? I have to reply or I will have a PR disaster".
Sam Schulte is one of Phoenix's main accomplices.
Sam Schulte
Coach in Phoenix's Primal Diet Coaching, member of the Primal Planitz board, and manager of several of their social media accounts, on Instagram, X and Facebook.
He runs their so-called "official Primal Diet" pages on several social media platforms, while fully aware that they are not official at all. This makes Sam an usurper and directly part of the scam.
In addition to this, Sam directly sided with the abuser Chris, stating he didn't care about what he did and would keep promoting him, and trying to frame the victims as the problem instead.
Sam was first contacted before their first conference in 2024, and seemed to take the problem seriously.
However, after the conference where Sam was supposed to talk about the issues with them and get back to me, Sam stopped replying altogether, silently reading my messages without replying to them.
After inquiring twice, I called him out.
He finally replied, getting offended that I would call such behavior "immoral", and sent me a message where he explicitly diminishes the abuse and defamation Chris has been doing, and frames me as the problem.
According to him, Chris didn't seem "that strange" to him, therefore Chris' abuse was not important. However, calling out such abuse was wrong and even brought chaos to the Primal Diet itself, which Sam had never done anything for and appeared suddenly out of nowhere to claim authority over.
I made a reply that he didn't reply to.
I didn't pursue the issue further. However, since he had said in his message that he was waiting to see how things would play out, and since Phoenix's scamming had only gotten worse, with him becoming an impostor, and with Chris keeping his abuse and defamation going, I contacted Sam again 1.5 years later, telling him it was time to quit this project or do something about it. He blocked me.
Just like Phoenix, the "I will see later" stance was just a lie, to get away with not dealing with the issues that are their responsibility, and buy enough time to implant themselves more so that it becomes harder to push back against them later.
I then started posting on social media about my interactions with him to let people know what kind of person he is and his role in these scandals.
When I accused him of siding with the abuser Chris, citing Chris defaming people and instructing others to leak women's nudes, Sam's reaction was to leave a "heart" reaction on the post, as if that was an appropriate response to such a situation.
Anyone accused of such things to hundreds of people, especially by someone like me who is known in the community and who people listen to, and especially as a representative of what is supposed to be a serious project, would contest such claims, if they were false.
Instead, Sam further confirmed that he knows what he is doing and doesn't care how immoral it is. He is taunting.
Sam unsuccessfully tried to report my factual posts about him on Instagram.
Sam (the person on the right) started posting more food photos and photos in social settings when this happened, arguably to distract people from the scandals and tried to appear wholesome.
A likely reason why Sam didn't find Chris strange and excused his abuse while many people are put off by Chris even without knowing of the scandal would be his affinity for him.
Since he reveled in his complicity with Chris by putting his "heart" reaction on my post accusing him of taking the side of a criminal abuser, Sam, whose intention was probably just to taunt, probably didn't realize how this action reflects on him, revealing his nature that he tries to conceal.
Kimberly Lynn Williams is another one of Phoenix's main accomplices. She is one of the coaches who work with him and is on Phoenix's Primal Planitz "board", and she tried to make me sign an NDA to silence me about Chris' abuse.
It is worth mentioning that Kimberly interviewed Aajonus and wrote a book "Raw to Radiant" that used information from Aajonus' book.
I contacted her in 2024 just like I had contacted everyone else. She first ignored my message, while advertising herself in the Facebook group I run, seemingly in need of money.
More than a year later, with the worsening situation, stating that I would not ignore her complicity with Phoenix and Chris just because she ignored my message, I insisted, and she finally replied, which began negotiations between their side and me.
Since Chris failed repeatedly to take down my website about him, and since the contents of it reflect poorly on the people who associate with him (many already left after being told about him), they tried deception, flattery, and money.
She agreed that Phoenix needed to stop changing the definition of the Primal Diet.
I made her look again at the evidence of Chris' actions, and she could only agree that he at least owed people an apology for the messed up things he had done and was doing.
She asked for extra evidence of the more recent actions, with dates, and I provided all, including links. I had to send her 3 times the documents because of her attempts to dodge them.
She told me that Chris should be given (yet another) chance, and not be fired from their board, if he apologizes. I accepted.
After two weeks of talking and a one-hour video call, she asked me for a final version of the complete list of actions he should apologize for.
The next step should have been for him to submit a written apology to the people he owed it to (which includes me), along with a statement that he will stop any such further actions.
Instead, Kimberly said she is going to send a contract to both of us.
I said: a contract? Why should I need to sign a contract for the people he abused and me to receive an apology? Then it's not an apology.
She corrected herself and said, it's not a contract, it's an agreement.
I asked if I could see the terms before she would send it for both Chris and me to sign, she refused.
Then she sent it and it turned out to be a contract with abusive terms, and clearly written with AI.
Good morning Rom,
First, I want to thank you for bringing all of this to my attention and I want you to know that I truly do understand your concern. What you have described is a type of cyber bullying, and harassment. I do not take this lightly as I have had people who've done something similar to me in my life. So I do have life experiences to understand what it's like to be on the receiving end of this.
I have spoken with Chris and he has shared that the behavior will not continue. I have written up an agreement that states this.
Additionally, I will speak with Phoenix about what the repercussions would be if the behavior were to continue. ie: removal from the board as one possibility.
I would also like to point out that your response to his harassment and cyber bullying has been with your own type of cyber bullying, harassment and retaliation. Again, similar immature, responsive behavior. And this behavior is not to continue either.
We all make mistakes. And you know I don't know either of your backgrounds to understand how you were raised, or who are your mentors in your life or mentors that you didn't have in your life. Sometimes we do things because we don't know better….. whether that's eating fried cooked foods or whether it's responding in an immature way. But once we know better, we do better. This is our opportunity to all learn and grow from this and operate in the world as mature adults. I have all the confidence in the world that both parties have learned from this experience and that we can let go of the past and all work together moving forward.
Rom, you're extremely intelligent, and you have been able to absorb the Primal Diet information on a very high level very quickly. You also have an incredible passion for keeping the purity of the diet as well. For this I acknowledge and honor you and I could definitely see you assisting in someway in this group that has been created where I am sitting on the board currently. I just want to put that out there as something to think about as we move forward. I cannot personally offer this as it's a group decision, but I just wanted to express my appreciation for what you bring to the Primal Diet.
I have created an "agreement" to be signed by both individuals acknowledging that neither of your behavior will continue moving forward. We will let the past be the past, learn from the mistakes, and move forward in a positive mature way. Attached is the agreement for your signature. I'm sending the same to Chris. If you agree on this, please let me know and I will put it in a document where both parties can sign and have copies.
I believe this agreement will stop the harassment from Chris. At the very least, it is documentation that a mediator has tried to mediate this. You're signing the agreement would show your intent to work together. If he refuses to sign it, that would not be a good look for him and would be additional evidence against him.
I also believe that Chris should send a separate formal apology to the woman or women who were the third party or parties who were directly involved. This agreement is primarily between you and Chris to stop the inter-harassment that is occurring.
Thank you,
Kimberly Williams
Subject
To All Parties Involved,
I am writing as an independent third-party life coach and mediator who has now spoken with individuals on multiple sides of this situation. My purpose is to clearly outline what I am observing and to propose a path forward that brings resolution, accountability, and closure rather than continued harm.
There are serious allegations regarding past behavior, including name-calling, disparaging remarks, inappropriate statements, and the alleged sharing of private images. These are not minor matters, and it is understandable that emotions have run high.
There are also allegations of ongoing conduct, including claims of harassment, slander, dissemination of information taken out of context, circulation of screenshots without full context, and direct or indirect contact with individuals' professional and personal networks.
Each primary party asserts that the behaviors they object to are the same behaviors they believe the other party is engaging in. As a mediator, I am not tasked with determining absolute factual truth, but rather with identifying patterns that are perpetuating harm and escalation.
What is clear is that the continuation of these behaviors—regardless of origin—has caused significant disruption and must stop.
From a mediation perspective, the core issue is not solely what happened in the past, but how the present is being handled.
The ongoing conflict is being driven by reactivity—responding from anger, hurt, defensiveness, or the need to blame rather than from reflection, accountability, and emotional regulation. This pattern is present across parties and has resulted in cycles of retaliation, escalation, and widening impact on uninvolved individuals.
Emotional and mental maturity are reflected in the ability to pause, self-regulate, take ownership where appropriate, and choose responses that de-escalate rather than inflame. Immaturity—regardless of intent—fuels conflict.
Harm can exist alongside emotional immaturity on multiple sides. Individuals who were impacted deserve acknowledgment. At the same time, remaining in ongoing reactivity—whether aggressive or defensive—signals work that still needs to be done internally.
It would be inaccurate and unhelpful to frame this situation as one side needing to "do the work" while the other does not. Growth and responsibility are required from all parties involved.
The following terms represent a balanced and necessary resolution:
Where appropriate and warranted, written apologies from both sides will be provided to individuals directly affected by past conduct. Chris will submit a written apology to the woman/women he disparaged and Rom will submit a written apology to Chris for the harassment.
From this date forward, all parties agree to immediately stop all forms of harassment, provocation, intimidation, or disparagement, including but not limited to:
This applies equally to all parties, regardless of who believes the behavior originated.
All parties agree not to retaliate, renew accusations, or engage in conduct intended to revive or escalate past conflict.
All parties agree to conduct themselves with professionalism, emotional maturity, and respect for boundaries, recognizing that continued escalation serves no constructive purpose.
If any party believes this agreement has been breached, the concern must first be addressed privately and directly, or through a mutually agreed-upon neutral third party. Public escalation is not an acceptable response.
This agreement is entered into with the explicit intent of ending this matter permanently and allowing all individuals and organizations involved to move forward without further disruption or harm. All individuals will act in a professional, respectable, honorable, mature manner from this day forward.
Removal of all materials that include disparaging comments, harassment, photos, screenshots, and any kind of negative material from all sources online or on the Internet. These materials will cease being disseminated from this day forward.
By signing below, each party affirms that they:
Signed,
Chris
X__________________________
Rom
X__________________________
Other Individuals Directly Affected
X__________________________
X__________________________
Date: ____________
⚠️ Important
This agreement is important because it establishes notice and pattern, which strengthens any
later legal action that might come if the other party does not comply.
At this stage, I wasn't asking for Chris to be kicked out anymore, or for Phoenix's group to be dissolved. I told her they just needed to reform their group to be more transparent, an "Aajonus-inspired" group, separating clearly what is Primal Diet from what isn't, and that Chris only needed to acknowledge his actions, apologize to his victims, and stop doing it.
So after my concessions and warnings, she, and they through her proxy, still chose to attempt to swindle me, and put blame on me.
They tried to equate my creation of a website to expose Chris' abusive actions all backed by evidence (as a last resort after repeated opportunities given to him to apologize) with said abusive actions, as if both of these actions are on the same level.
They also wanted to bother Chris' victims, when I specifically told her not to do that.
Imagine contacting the people Chris abused
and asking them out of nowhere to sign some sort of NDA as a prerequisite to get an apology that is owed to them.
That they do it to me is one thing, but this is truly delusional.
I told Kimberly I would wait 24 hours for her to provide evidence for the accusations made against me in her contract, and she just deflected the topic.
When I refused to sign this contract, and said I would go public again with this, she offered to send me clients.
She asked me again recently for help with some of her clients, acting completely oblivious about the fact she tried to make us sign our rights away to defend an abuser.
Kimberly acts with the appearance of a nice person, but her actions are immoral.
Kimberly repeatedly lied to me during our negotiations. She said she wasn't talking to the others (Phoenix, Chris, the board, ...) yet, and in other instances she said that the "other side" also wanted to find a solution. She alternated those two contradictory statements. She also said she was going to leave Phoenix's board for personal reasons, but it was a lie, she is still in it.
This was the full list of actions Chris was asked to acknowledge and apologize for:
Towards me:
Of course, details could be discussed. Even an acknowledgment of half of this would have been helpful.
That's only the part on me, there is a whole list for other people, such as the woman he abused together with people who leaked her nudes and told her to commit suicide, and that he kept defaming afterwards, calling her a narcissistic psychopath, and inverting the accusations, saying she was the one harassing and stalking them (without any proof whatsoever).
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We spent hours going in-depth through all their coaching content, including paywalled videos and consults, and the deeper we went, the worse it got.
We can say with the utmost certainty that these coaches are frauds.
They are incompetent, mediocre at best,
dishonest and deliberately sabotaging Aajonus' works at worst.
And Phoenix, the leader of this project, is the latter.
They go against the very fundamentals of Primal Diet:
These are not minor detail that they get wrong, but core principles, and advice that can put people at risk.
They go against so many of Aajonus' teachings that it cannot be called Primal Diet anymore. Even more outrageous, they are lying about what Aajonus said, going as far as fabricating statements of him saying the opposite of what he actually said.
Jim Ellingson, who managed the official Primal Diet website since 2006 until handing it over to Phoenix recently, has said, since Aajonus died, that his work could not be published publicly, for free, because people could misquote him and take things out of context.
Yet now, this is exactly what Phoenix is doing.
This page will show the major examples from our findings.
Phoenix directly goes against Aajonus by saying frozen meat is fine to eat, completely ignoring Aajonus' experiments.
Aajonus is without a doubt, 100% against eating frozen meat,
and explicitly says that he did experiments on it
that prove it is toxic.
You can read it below:
Aajonus:You have to find somebody who will sell it to you unfrozen.
My animal tests in the late 80s took one group of animals and fed them the same meat frozen - a side of beef, a half of a beef.
I split it and froze one of them for 10 days and I fed that one group frozen, from the same meat, the same animal. I fed the other group non-frozen, I did refrigerate it.
ALL the animals that ate frozen got skin disease within 6 weeks.
One of them had the mange. Those that had it unfrozen didn't drink much water. [the others] guzzled down the water and they all had skin disease. So, there are a lot of toxins produced by freezing your meats.
You could create heterocyclic amines, lipid peroxides, all kinds of [inaudible]. What it is, I didn't test for it as that would have been about $80,000 to test chemically for it. I was interested in the results.
So then I knew that raw butter will heal any skin disorder, no matter what it is. So, I took butter from the same batch froze it for 10 days Some I began giving to them; I split that group in two. I gave unfrozen raw butter to those animals.
The ones that got the frozen butter took 5 times longer to heal their skin disorder.
So, if I break that down statistically, that means that destroyed 80 percent of the healing nutrients in the butter. In the meat, it actually made it toxic.
I have watched people feed their animals frozen meat and I watched them get skin disorders.
It takes longer because I am giving them raw butter and I am giving them raw eggs.
But they figure, ‘oh, it is just the animal. I will just feed them regular meats - frozen meats - from the store’. But there is a repercussion for it.
More?
Attendee:You mentioned not to eat frozen meat.
Aajonus' stance is clear. However, Phoenix's wife, Avyanna, writes in their Signal group that Aajonus actually made a typo in his book, that he actually wasn't against frozen meat!
This is an insidious lie. As you can read above in Aajonus' quote, him saying freezing destroys 80% of the nutrients in meat, and even generates toxins in it, is very intentional and not a typo. And it is not from the book, as she says, it is something he repeats many times over the years, and he consistently repeats the same figure.
So these people are liars who trick people into doing things that Aajonus say are harmful, while telling them Aajonus approved of them. This is not idiocy, this is deliberate sabotage.
Chris "EatRawMeat", the online abuser who joined Phoenix and says he co-founded their coaching business, also pushes this disinformation. He writes Aajonus changed his mind about frozen meat and wasn't against it anymore.
Aajonus repeated only 2 months before his death that "frozen meat is toxic".
Chris knows this very well. He read the page where we wrote this already.
It is troubling that they doubled down in such a fashion after we pointed out how wrong they were last time, and could only come up with more radical deception to push their misinformation.
This is already sufficient to revoke the rights of those people to use the Primal Diet trademark and run the official websites. They can create their own diet if they so desire, with its own name, without scamming people who are paying to learn Aajonus' diet; but lying about Aajonus' most vital recommendations is unacceptable.
But they manage to reach new lows.
Phoenix mentions one of their coaches went back to "biohacking" with supplements.
Phoenix proceeds to say he doesn't want people to listen to Aajonus or him, but to be open-minded.
Phoenix even says that trying out supplements is great, and goes out to defend their chemistry. He goes as far as saying than supplements and cheese are similar, that cheese is like a milk supplement.
Aajonus was firmly against supplements. Of course, here we are referring to synthetic supplements, or the ones extracted with either kerosene or gasoline that Aajonus famously talks about, saying they are more than 90% toxic.
Phoenix even hesitates before saying it, as if he is aware that it is a controversial statement in the Primal Diet context, and that the dishonest way he is presenting it could incite strong backlash if he isn't careful.
People in the audience then mention organ supplements (which are very different, they are just organs dried into a powder). It's as if they can't believe that Phoenix really was trying to incite them to consider using the toxic supplements that Aajonus strongly warns against.
Phoenix then says "Absolutely" and moves on, seeing he is encountering resistance and pretending that the organ supplements are what he was referring to, when it clearly wasn't.
When asked about eating cheese before meals, as Aajonus recommended to clear toxins, Phoenix instead speaks about eating fat with juice and meat meals, and dodges the question.
Several people, who don't know each other, have reported to us that Phoenix told them to NOT do cheese trains, to avoid eating raw unsalted cheese.
Cheese is an extremely important part of the Primal Diet that Phoenix dismisses. It is so useful that Aajonus was mentioning it constantly in his last years, such as in his last 2013 Chicago workshop. He discovered it could be the fastest way to detoxify the body, with with the least side-effects.
This is one of those things that Phoenix avoids saying publicly, probably fearing backlash considering most people are aware of the importance of cheese in the Primal Diet.
Phoenix tells a man with ulcerative colitis to keep bleeding.
The man tells Phoenix he is using Aajonus' cabbage juice remedy to stop the bleeding.
Phoenix tells him to STOP Aajonus' remedy, saying it is just "masking the detox".
That's absolutely wrong, the remedy doesn't stop the detox at all, it protects the body from damage while the detox takes place.
In addition, Kimberly tells the man to have "anything fermented".
This is also the EXACT opposite of what Aajonus said.
This is not an exaggeration, see the quote of Aajonus below:
Attendee:[Question about colitis]
Aajonus:
They managed to give the two exactly opposite statements.
At this point, you can wonder if it is intentional, or just extremely unfortunate. In any case, they are definitely incompetent.
Phoenix also recommends him less fat (!).
Aajonus makes it very clear that he wants everyone to eat as much fat as they can, to heal faster.
Fat is essential to heal and a lot of it is necessary to protect the body from toxins
from damage such as bleeding.
So you have Phoenix and Kimberly giving damaging, and potentially dangerous advice that is the polar opposite of Aajonus' words to people who traveled and paid him to get Primal Diet advice.
To the same person with colitis, Phoenix gives the following explanation:
Phoenix:...he has overdigestion, he's got a lot of heat in his body, a lot of fire in his body and that's why he tends towards, towards diarrhea, it's because, because, his metabolism and his digestion, is over, overcooking.
Primal Diet conference, 2024
The metabolism is over-cooking? This is complete hogwash that has absolutely nothing to do with anything Aajonus said.
This doesn't need an explanation but to be thorough: "overdigestion" doesn't exist, if someone can digest more than other people, Aajonus obviously considers it a good thing. Besides, "overdigestion" would certainly not cause bleeding. Toxins cause bleeding and diarrhea. This is Aajonus' view.
In other instances, Phoenix shows his severe lack of understanding by not knowing what to say at all.
Phoenix recommends to put yogurt in celery juice.
No comment needed.
And what is this yogurt that they keep recommending? Aajonus said yogurt is not raw, so what are they referring to? Clabbered raw milk? They do not even precise it.
Attendee:Do you get the same effect with yogurt?
Aajonus:
Chris tells people to stay away from coconut cream and fruit for the first year on the diet.
However, Aajonus recommended those to people right away. They are just to be kept in small amounts, not entirely eliminated. They are useful to help the body detoxify.
Phoenix says some body types do "better" with salt, caffeine and alcohol.
Aajonus is against all of these things. He considers them toxic no matter the person.
Phoenix tells the attendee, "but for you, no, absolutely 0, no added salt". Does this mean that some people of the other body types can have salt, then?
This is an ambiguous statement.
Where does Phoenix get this? Not from Aajonus. He seems to be getting it from Ayurveda. His classification of people by body types follows Ayurvedic Doshas, which he also posted on the "official Primal Diet coaching" website, despite Aajonus never having included them in the Primal Diet.
After attacking meat with his freezing nonsense, Phoenix now attacks another key item of the Primal Diet, vegetable juice.
Let's start with another of Phoenix's lies about Aajonus.
Phoenix:You know, Aajonus, at least in the last 10 years of his life, wasn't having any green juice at all...
Primal Diet conference, 2024
This is a complete lie, as Aajonus was speaking of having celery juice just weeks before he died.
Is Phoenix deeply ignorant about Aajonus despite saying he knew him, or is he once again lying on purpose?
This is also an extremely misleading statement to tell people who are new to the diet. People who are early in the diet need much more celery juice than people who have been decades on it.
Aajonus said that over the years, if you are consistent, you can progressively drink less juice, because of having less and less toxins in your body. On average, you start with around 4 cups a day, and every 7 years, you can reduce it by 1 cup. So it would take around 28 years to not need celery juice anymore.
Phoenix also tells people if they are worried about oxalates, they should substitute vegetable juice for primal lemonade.
This is one of the worst advice you can give to someone on the Primal Diet, and an amateurish misconception.
Vegetable juice is mandatory on the Primal Diet and nothing can substitute it. Other recipes like raw lemonades and sports formula are complementary to the vegetable juice, but can never replace it. Toxins will keep building up in the blood without it and create more and more problems in people who are on the Primal Diet.
On top of that, Aajonus warns that having more than a little bit of raw lemonade is extremely demineralizing to the body, but here again, Phoenix says the exact opposite! He says it's a good source of minerals.
According to Phoenix, honey is more important than vegetable juice, which is flat out wrong, because although it is useful, you can replace honey, but you cannot replace vegetable juice.
So this is doubly misleading advice.
In many places, Phoenix doesn't even mention celery juice at all when defining the Primal Diet.
When Phoenix is asked why celery juice can make your tired, he doesn't know.
When someone asks about fermented celery juice, Phoenix says another falsehood, pretending that Aajonus was still dabbling with it, (Aajonus already knew how it worked), and was going to put it in the detox book.
Chris also has several misconceptions about celery juice. He says if celery juice makes you tired, you need to add higher carb plants to it, like carrots or parsley. He also says having celery juice alone creates imbalances.
However, celery juice can make you tired simply because of detoxification, and not necessarily because it lowers blood sugar. Even vegetable juices with those higher carbs ingredients added can still make you tired if there is a lot of to detoxify at once. Having celery juice alone is possible, although parsley is also recommended by Aajonus for everyone. If individuals have high amounts of glycotoxins, having the celery juice alone usually doesn't lower their blood sugar.
He says this in "Primal Diet 202", a video that is supposed to be about more advanced Primal Diet.
This is false, these foods are recommended (as part of recipes) for years, decades, on the diet. Unless you consider the whole regular Primal Diet to be transitional, until you are toxin-free and can eat only meat and fat, this statement is false.
Example: Aajonus recommends fruit meal or sports formula to most people, every day, or every 3 days, ...
Phoenix says the best way to detox is weight loss. That is not correct. Although Aajonus praised weight gain/loss cycles to detoxify faster, he clearly highlighted cheese trains, hot baths, and the likes, are even more efficient ways to detox. But this isn't the biggest problem in what he says.
He also says to only eat when very hungry. This is not what Aajonus recommended. Even on the weight loss diet, Aajonus recommended to eat raw animal protein every 5 hours at least, to avoid autophagy. People who listen to Phoenix here could end up fasting while Aajonus is strongly against fasting, especially when on a weight loss diet, often in a calorie and fat deficit.
Phoenix loses weight once a year, in winter. It is exactly at the time Aajonus recommends not to do it, since we need much more fat in winter to protect ourselves from the cold.
When experiencing "detox symptoms", Phoenix recommends to eat less. Again, this is not at all what Aajonus recommended. During a detoxification, the body might need as much fat as it can, and they should be provided if possible.
This is extremely bad advice, essentially telling someone in a vulnerable state to make themselves even weaker when they often need as many nutrients as they can get.
Although we lack a precise assessment from Aajonus on this topic, he did speak about mind over matter.
Mercury is the worst neurotoxin in the world. It is difficult to imagine thoughts so bad that they would rival it. If you swallow mercury, you can die. Is there a thought that can kill you instantly?
In any case, this isn't what Aajonus said. These are not comparable.
This could make people underestimate the danger of real, physical toxins. Some people might start thinking that it is better to eat toxic food than to have bad thoughts.
What she should have said instead, is separate her own beliefs for Primal Diet, and give a nuanced view by presenting what Aajonus said and discussing it:
Kimberly recommends to use vaporizers to spray essential oils in the house.
For what purpose? To keep the house smelling fresh.
Aajonus considers essential oils to be toxic. They are heated at high temperatures and become solvents that penetrate cells and damage them.
This is a very basic mistake that Aajonus bashed in the past already, and that they are now repeating but using his own organization.
You can see what Aajonus said below when people posted about essential oils in the Facebook group:
Aajonus was complaining about the Facebook group giving such advice he didn't agree with, but that he could do nothing about it. Now his own organization itself is giving the same advice. He even said it is a trademark infringement to do so. So the official Primal Diet coaching is in direct violation of the Primal Diet trademark, at the very least in spirit.
In a video about "detoxing your home", Kimberly doesn't even mention plants for air purification. This was Aajonus' main recommendations besides using good fabrics and avoiding EMFs. He even gave a list of plants for which toxins they absorb. It seems like they didn't read Aajonus' newsletters.
Were those recommended by Aajonus? No. Is this against Aajonus' teachings? Potentially.
Anything that Aajonus didn't recommend should be presented with a warning.
This is partially true, many hormones are fat-based (testosterone, estrogen, cortisol, etc.).
This is important to know because it explains why the body can release hormones in the presence of toxicity, to use the fat in them to protect itself.
Aajonus consider coffee to be significantly toxic, and gave proper substitutes for it in his book, such as celery juice, and other water-based recipes, that can help replace coffee without the negative effects and help kick the addiction.
Celery juice works very well for many people.
Kimberly instead tells people to put a drop of coffee in raw milk. This is by the way the same thing she writes in her book Raw to Radiant that we have also read.
Her advice is very weak, not fit of an "official Primal Diet coach". Anyone who opens the book We Want To Live and goes to "coffee" section will immediately get a better advice than this. She should recommend to follow those recipes instead and only use her advice as a last resort for people who do not want to follow Aajonus' advice.
For someone with a knee problem, they fail to mention:
They only get the hot baths right, but completely miss the main diet advice.
For gum recession, Phoenix recommends more meat. This is far from a complete answer and can even be wrong.
Mentioning more sources of fat and minerals such as raw dairy is more important. Making sure to limit fruit as well. Just recommending to eat more meat alone could lead to a worsening of the condition if the person doesn't eat enough fat and minerals, because although raw meat regenerates the body, it uses a lot of fat, and the body needs to keep an excess of fat to deal with toxins which cause gum recession.
There are several more examples like this.
According to Phoenix, eating butter with cheese makes the cheese get digested... He really doesn't understand cheese trains. Only sources of sugar or enzymes like honey or fruit, eaten mashed together with the cheese, will make it get digested.
Phoenix says that if you have depression after 5 years on the diet, you can try high meat.
Aajonus never said to wait that long, even 2 years would be long. High meat is an important part of the diet, once again another key aspect that Phoenix pushes away from people.
Phoenix has a paid video called "Detox is not disease". The title alone shows a complete misunderstanding of Aajonus' teachings.
Aajonus made two books with the purpose of teaching people that disease IS detoxification, a disease is a healing process where the body is getting rid of toxins.
Aajonus:
You couldn't misrepresent Aajonus any more than this.
In the video "Primal Diet 303", which is supposed to be about advanced Primal Diet, Phoenix says he doesn't do iridology readings, which is Aajonus' main method of analysis, but instead uses Ayurveda to diagnose people.
This is yet another, direct, confirmation that Phoenix prefers Ayurveda over Aajonus' methods.
He will always put Ayurveda principles before Aajonus' principles, even when they are in direct contradiction: if they tell people to fast, to eat less fat, to drink lemonade every day in the morning (instead of celery juice), to eat "cooling foods" (a concept which doesn't exist in Primal Diet and which Aajonus would define completely differently), etc.
Phoenix and his wife Avyanna boast a huge list of certifications. However, when you look at them, you can see several are in contradiction with Primal Diet: like Phoenix's Ayurvedic certification. And indeed, Phoenix has been injecting Ayurvedic concepts over the Primal Diet ones.
On Phoenix's Blossom&Be website, he lists the Primal Diet below a "Flowtrition" service.
Phoenix says that bacteria do not grow on cooked foods, which is false.
He says the more liquid a fat is, the more it Will be used as a solvent such as coconut cream and raw cream.
However, according to Aajonus, raw dairy cream is not a solvent, and is extremely important to feed the brain, it is mostly anabolic and not catabolic. Aajonus recommends to strongly limit the consumption of solvents, but not of raw cream.
So this is another contradiction with Primal Diet.
Phoenix's original job seems to be a massage therapist.
He says he does deep tissue massages, however Aajonus is against anything more than light touch massages, because according to him, stronger massages can damage the lymphatic system under the skin.
Attendee:Does massage help at all?
Aajonus:
Jeff Slay, whose life Aajonus saved, decided to stop drinking dairy most of the year.
As you can see in the photos, he now looks much weaker than when he was following Aajonus' advice.
James Slay before:
Jeff Slay now:
Aajonus says dairy is a very important part of the diet.
Aajonus:
Sam is the social media manager of the "official real Primal Diet".
He posted meal photos on the Instagram page.
Aajonus claimed all salmon, even wild, became cross-bred with Monsanto GMO salmons, and that he stopped eating it entirely in 2007 after getting repeatedly sick from it.
It is strange they would promote this food on a Primal Diet page without even a warning.
He also writes "raw vegan wrap" in the description, which is a very dubious term to use.
They posted recipes that they created (they are not from Aajonus' book) on the Instagram account.
It contains a major flaw that Aajonus would not green-light: eating raw egg yolks intead of whole raw eggs.
Aajonus made experiments on this and found that in animals, eating raw egg yolks without the whites or vice-versa created severe imbalances.
Egg yolks can be eaten separately, but only if the egg whites are also eaten around the same time, to prevent this problem. They should not get discarded. This is why Aajonus requested the egg white to be brought to him in a separate cup when eating steak tartares (with the egg yolk on top) at restaurants.
On the same post, there is a turkey recipe that combines raw cream with raw meat.
According to Aajonus, because raw cream is one of the hardest fats to digest, it will prevent half of the raw meat from being digested if it is eaten together with it, unless the cream is already sour (fermented, which makes it pre-digested).
High carb fruit eaten with red meat can give very strong detoxification. It should absolutely come with a warning. This is a basic and important food combining rule of the Primal Diet.
In the sushis, there was already a significant portion of whole raw carrot and of seaweed per unit.
On this photo, there is whole cucumber, not peeled.
Aajonus warned that more than a very small amount (around 2 tablespoons) of whole vegetables per meal can lacerate the intetines and severely hinder raw meat digestion. The problem lies in the hard cellulose fiber of whole vegetables, which is different from the pulp of fruits.
No warning given on the post or at their meeting where this food was served.
This is not even everything. 30% of things were left out to keep this review readable, it is already quite long.
We could have spoken about how their replies to many questions were very lackluster, how Kimberly eats frozen cauliflower pizza while saying she has been 20 years on the diet, etc.
In their video consults, the coaches do not mention quantities, schedules, nothing.
Major things are missing. The explanations given for most things are superficial.
They constantly break Primal Diet principles, including the most basic and important ones.
They all appear unsure of themselves and look at each other uncomfortably on many instances.
Even people who were at their conference are able to fact-check them. Several reported about the nonsense that they heard there.
We can easily name 10 people from our groups who have a better understanding and knowledge of the Primal Diet than these "coaches".
Their purpose statement that they are not following:
We have seen above how they are going against Aajonus, systematically disregarding him, lying about what he says, but it goes even further than that.
What is their reason for doing this then, if they are not following Aajonus' teachings?
Why would they not just teach their own diet, instead of pretending to be teaching the Primal Diet?
At least two motives became apparent: they want money and status.
Phoenix and Kimberly are extensively promoting their own personal businesses (that do not align with Aajonus material) while using the Primal Diet coaching.
Phoenix has a blatant conflict of interest as he is promoting his own business "Blossom&Be" everywhere, including printing it on pages of Aajonus' books that he posts on the "official Primal Diet coaching" website.
The sales seemed to go at first to his personal business entity and not to a Primal Diet-dedicated company. Now, he has created his "Primal Planitz" organization.
The Signal group people from the Primal Diet website are added to doesn't even have "Primal Diet" in its name, it is called "Fat Cattle Kingdom".
Phoenix uses it to find investors, he asks people for millions to buy him a farm. So that's a reason for Phoenix to hijack the Primal Diet official structure and movement, without even respecting Aajonus' works and scamming everyone with his anti-Primal Diet advice.
Because people reported their 2024 conference's content and the statements they made on group chats, Phoenix started removing people from the group and blaming people. He would rather scam people in secrecy.
Why do the other coaches, such as Sam and Jeff, who themselves are not very competent, but still look uncomfortable when they see Phoenix say nonsense, not correct him?
It is known that they do not need money. For example, Aajonus said Jeff was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Sam is the CEO of a bicycle company, so he probably already makes a good living. So they likely just got stringed along with the promise of a Primal Diet revival, community. Phoenix has some experience organizing a viable business, creating a sales funnel, making events, etc. so they just tag along and let him do what he wants without controlling any of it.
The following is an extensive list of lies and mistakes of the coaching scam run by Phoenix, side by side with Aajonus' original teachings to show the discrepancies.
The stances of each side are paraphrased to be as concise as possible.
The more red the square in-between them, the more the two sides disagree (the more a coach is lying or misrepresenting Aajonus).
At the 2024 conference, Phoenix served frozen meat and frozen butter to people. Some of them reported adverse reactions to it (some people are more sensitive than others to frozen meat).
At the 2025 conference, someone reported to me that just like at the 2024 conference, people were served frozen meat, but this time, without even prior warnings about it. Despite the frozen meat issue having been raised the previous year, they seemingly worsened the situation. Adverse effects were reported again.
Phoenix has been defaming me in private to people, as well as attacking my work.
Phoenix has been for many years in my Primal Diet Facebook group before he made his appearance through his takeover, so he has known me for a long time, which I wasn't aware of at first. When I first contacted him about the Chris situation, he praised my "direction" and "impact", which is important for what he would later say.
In an email to someone, Phoenix said he left my group because it became abusive, completely contradicting what he had told me about my "direction".
Phoenix also tells people that I contact people's families and workplaces, which is something Chris told him, trying to paint me as a harasser.
When people committed repeated criminal abuse, I contacted their families, politely, to try to make them stop, which worked 50% of the time. For example, there was a man who was abusing people for years, making false accusations of pedophilia, harassing a woman, he was one of Chris' accomplices. I couldn't make him stop for years, until I contacted his father, who was a lawyer, which made him stop immediately. And trust me, the father preferred that to his son receiving a lawsuit or a police visit.
I also contacted the father of the man who leaked women's nudes, and who on top of that kept harassing people.
Another instance, I contacted the father of an 18 year old kid who was starting to defame people along with those criminals, because of their bad influence. The father took his son out of that environment, which was for the best.
All you have to do is look at the websites I created to warn about those people and get them to stop. They are full of undeniable evidence, and none of them have ever sued me, or attempted to publicly disprove the evidence. Phoenix is aware of all of this yet reuses one of their arguments against me.
Phoenix accusing me of "contacting families" is dishonest, which he knows. It's as dishonest as him supporting Chris who committed actual criminal, gratuitous abuse. I have been dealing with abusers for years. They doxed me, took years off my life, made me lose money, time, jobs, health, etc. Contacting their family instead of calling the police is diplomacy, not harassment.
I find it extremely immoral when people excuse actual, severe, sometimes criminal, abusers and try to paint me as the harasser for defending myself and others against them, often with 1/10th of the severity of the abuse they commit, while facing several of them at the same time, with people like Phoenix to back them up.
Phoenix advertises on his Blossom&Be services that he is open to helping with the biological processes of people who identify as women.
This last sentence would warrant some explanation, especially in relation to Aajonus' teachings and the Primal Diet philosophy.
The other coaches who are part of Phoenix's lineup and the Primal Planitz board also deserve a mention.
I have not seen them express support for Chris, or attack his victims, but they remain in Phoenix's organization, making them complicit in the scamming and usurpation, as well as indirectly promoting Chris who is the co-founder of the organization they are part of.
Decent people would leave such an organization, or try to fix it at the very least.
These people received emails from us but never replied to them, applying the ostrich strategy.
Jeff Slay,
who was the main Primal Diet recovery testimonial Aajonus put on his website,
as well as the executive director and vice-president of his activism trust, Right To Choose Healthy Food.
What would Aajonus think of you, Jeff? You are betraying your old friend who saved your life.
Betsy, who is someone we do not know.
Tom, who is Phoenix's friend and says in his presentation on their website that he doesn't care what people think
Phoenix took over the Facebook page and falsely called himself Aajonus' official successor, and I posted evidence of him being a scammer there, someone who knows Phoenix, a certain "Terrie Lewine", appeared in the comments to tell people to contact her privately, not addressing the evidence. This is shady behavior. Who is this person? Does she even do Primal Diet? I have never heard of her, she comes from Phoenix's network. Why talk to people in private and not prove he is not a scammer publicly, unless you know you are lying and trying to manipulate people in private where others can't correct you?
As mentioned before, Phoenix never made a public reply to any of my accusations. He also refused to discuss any of the issues I raised with me, even in private.
John Reed, who did plumbing with Aajonus and wrote the Hot Tub book, and who was the one who introduced Jim Ellingson to the Primal Diet, was also unaware of the scandals surrounding Phoenix, and couldn't believe them at first.
I offered to discuss the topic with him, and even to have a 3-way call with Phoenix. John talked with Phoenix and seemed to realize that there were indeed issues, and that Phoenix was unwilling to budge regarding them. Without posting his messages to me here, I can confirm that Phoenix refused the 3-way call that I suggested and that John relayed to him.
The reason is obvious: Phoenix would only stand to lose by talking to me in real time.
Whenever I flag someone as a scammer or abuser in the community, the previous scammers and abusers flock to promote them. This is what Lina, the criminal, and Anina, her accomplice, did in 2024:

To understand what these people did, you can read the articles about them on dedicated websites. Lina's case is relevant to Chris, who works with Phoenix, since they were accomplices.
See Lina's actions and the evidence.
See Anina's actions and the evidence.
Leo aka "residentraw", the latest scammer and abuser, became close with both Chris and Phoenix over me exposing his actions. Now, he is starting to work with them and will stream their conference on June 11-14, 2026.
See Leo's actions and the evidence.
Leo, who scams minors, abuses me, and is complicit with Chris despite knowing his criminal actions, says that Phoenix got turned off by the profanity in his videos. This is performative, since Phoenix is not turned off by being the associate and promoting heavily an unapologetic criminal abuser, Chris.
Phoenix and his crew who have remained in spite of the scandals have been trying to portray themselves as good, friendly people with altruistic intentions, who are just trying to be beneficial for the world.
However, the mask has been slipping off on multiple occasions.
Take this person, who was diplomatic with Phoenix, and even offered to pay for his services, and who Phoenix flipped on:
Another testimony:
If that testimony is true, why is Phoenix rude to a paying customer who seemingly didn't do anything wrong?
Phoenix's behavior, the real Phoenix underneath, his attitude, his actions, everything, can be explained once you understand his motives, informed by his psychology and biography.
This section is more subjective, but it was requested.
Once you have seen what Phoenix is doing, you are probably wondering why he is doing it, and how he expects to get away with it.
The answer is in his name itself, "Phoenix Be", which is a nickname he chose for himself. His wife also changed her name. These names hold great significance for them, as they redefined their identity through the symbolism of these names, to free themselves from their past, and they believe they have a manifest destiny to save the world, which guides their actions and their vision of the world. This is key to them; it is an existential matter, and their mental coherence depends on it.
Phoenix Be was born Mihaly H. Bartalos in September of 1965, the oldest of three boys, in a family of Hungarian-Lithuanian immigrants from Eastern Europe.
You can see on some websites, he also appeared as "Phoenix Bartalos".
Avyanna Grace seems to be Jennifer Lynn Fiscus, according to public records, although that is not fully confirmed. She changed her name to "Avyanna" seemingly after meeting Phoenix. She is around 13 years younger than Phoenix.
When I first heard of Phoenix's involvement in the Primal Diet organization's activities in 2024, with Jim Ellingson telling people in private that Phoenix would be starting a coaching business before it was publicly announced, I didn't have any particular opinion of him and was still hopeful.
I didn't know Chris was involved until their public launch.
Upon reading their website primaldietcoaching.com, several things immediately struck me.
Phoenix was writing as if nothing had happened since Aajonus died, as if it was some sort of dark age, and framing himself and his group as saviors, literally the "Next Generation".
This looked both unserious, even immature, even delusional, and dishonest to me, erasing years of work by other people, while he was completely absent, and putting forward such a narrative.
The claims were exaggerated, such as "picking up where Aajonus left off", implying they were at the level to stand with Aajonus, even surpass him.
The use of metaphors such as "we are the safe harbor", "we are taking the torch", and of repetition, "we are here to ... we are here to ..." (written as "we are hear", still not fixed to this day) was trying to give the story an epic quality that wasn't warranted yet, with nothing proven.
The stated goal of "converting 400 million people" to eating raw meat within a set number of years was the clearest tell. This sort of self-hype roadmap lacking grounding in reality is a sign of delusions of grandeur, of megalomania, even.
Does he not remember all the powerful enemies Aajonus faced?
This landing page alone told me the following:
He immediately appeared as irresponsible, potentially dishonest, potentially irrational, and dangerous if left in a position of power.
It also looked like he had been waiting all his life for this moment.
Despite the triumphant tone, the text reads more as manic, fragile, almost desperate, as if he is trying to convince himself more than the readers, or to manifest the events.
All of this is perceivable in that copy alone.
Every subsequent piece of information, gathered from the conversations that took place with him, from his actions, and from his biography, confirmed it and refined this thesis.
I contacted him politely, brought up the Chris issue. He dodged the issue at first, as if his preoccupations were elsewhere and he didn't want to deal with inconveniences.
In our conversation, he said something that confirmed an earlier suspicion. He said that in his community, Chris would not commit the abuse he had committed. To which I replied: It looks like you are acting as if only your community, which doesn't exist yet, matters. Chris had committed abuse, the place is irrelevant. This is exactly like Phoenix's primaldietcoaching.com landing page where he says that nothing took place ever since Aajonus died, and now he is there to save the day. In both cases, only what he does matters, and the rest is treated as if it doesn't exist.
He even asked me to promote his conference in spite of Chris' presence as co-founder, which is a delusional request. Phoenix truly seems to think that his conference is important above all and trumps criminal abuse and the integrity of Aajonus' legacy.
When you look at the photos Phoenix posts of himself on his website, they do not lie. Analyzing people's expressions is not always reliable, but in this case, it is very clear.
Phoenix is forcing himself to smile, but the expression that comes through is one of worry and insecurity. You can see it in several areas. The smile looks unnatural and tense, the eyes are also tense, not relaxed, almost strained.
In this photo, it looks like Phoenix is the one who needs therapy. He is trying to force a smile, but cannot hide his inner turmoil. He looks like he is feeling out of place.
Listen to how Phoenix reacts to being called "baby".
Phoenix also claims to be a feminist in that podcast. However, he is the accomplice of a man, Chris "eatrawmeat", who did extreme sexual harassment, in the form of digital sexual violence, towards a woman. His feminist position is hypocritical.
Overall, he is performative in many aspects. He is trying to embody certain identities, like the spiritual therapist, the feminist, but he is playing a role. In this case, not to trick others, it is who he pretends to be to himself.
When you stop videos at random frames, you will often see him down or sad-looking.
As was shown in the earlier investigation about Phoenix's past presence on the Primal Diet Facebook group, he expressed himself more directly in a throwaway account that he thought nobody would see.
It confirms the mythological origin of the name "Phoenix" he chose, with the image of an abstract fiery phoenix prominently displayed.
Besides the alliteration, the name "Vince Valiant", which is merely a mock name like "John Smith", indicates that he sees himself as a hero.
The most important clue is his "occupation" field: "Creator at Heaven on Earth". Phoenix sees himself as a savior of this world, and a creator, that is, a god-like figure.
Phoenix is someone who has been trying to find his place in the world for most of his life. He had two failed marriages. He says on his website that "darkness is an old friend".
Phoenix writes his biography in a way that makes it look like he has a chip on his shoulder, saying he was smart, physically gifted, a bad boy, and beat the school bully.
Phoenix Be:I was school-smart and physically gifted. I was accepted to U.S.Olympic swim team as a pre-teen, but unfortunately, drifted towards the “bad boys” —listening to Black Sabbath, playing tag with Roman candles, and getting expelled.
In my teens and early twenties, I continued my daredevil ways. I fought the school bully (and won).
He mentions the struggles he went through:
Phoenix Be:But throughout all of that, I was still acting out, still lonely, still looking for something. In 1994, after a lonely marriage and a painful divorce, I entered an intense period of recovery and self-exploration. I learned Nonviolent Communication, ate according to my Dosha, and lived in the woods like Thoreau. But even though I was doing all these healing things, I was still repeating the same codependent relationship patterns. After my third separation I found myself curled in a ball, wanting to die. I thought I’d be alone for the rest of my life.
He had more physical-leaning jobs, that were not satisfying him fully.
When he met his current wife, Jennifer/Avyanna, they both found salvation in each other.
He became Phoenix, reborn through her Grace, now authentically living as himself, hence his last name "Be", and their rebirth had such meaning that they had a common mission, to save the world and create Heaven on Earth.
Calling yourself "Phoenix Be" = Rebirth + Being = Being x 2, it is a tautology. Calling yourself Avyanna Grace, while specifying that the word "Avyanna" also embodies grace, it is another tautology.
"Bringer of Elegance, Grace, and the Now, the yin counterpart to Phoenix's yang"
"Avyanna is the gentle, intuitive yin who balances Phoenix's fiery, action-oriented yang"
Such emphasis is more of a self-fulfilling prophecy, an attempt to convince themselves.
Their common mission is such an important part of their life that Phoenix mentioned it in their wedding speech. They call themselves partners in love and purpose.
They seem to view it as a manifest destiny, that is, a predetermined course of events that is believed to be inevitable and often divinely ordained, and where they place themselves as the central characters.
Such thinking is often dangerous, and can lead not only to delusions of grandeur, but to a denial of reality and a worldview that turns people into props. Reality must bend to their will, the narrative must be fulfilled, and anything that gets in the way cannot be accepted by the mind.
They end up in a contradiction where they want to help people, even save the world, but it must be done their way, and if it doesn't happen how they envision it, with them at the center, they see other people's interests like they would see glitches. Other people end up not mattering and can be trampled to a great extent, to fulfill their vision and destiny, they can go to great lengths in immorality.
They married, started a business and had a child all in the same year, in 2019.
They claim on their website that they can teach people to find themselves, heal their trauma, and improve their dating relationships. The name of their business "Blossom and Be" is what they perceive they have achieved, and can help others achieve.
Avyanna was the catalyst for Phoenix's change and holds a very important position. Her philosophy is about helping others "remember how to blossom" even after periods of darkness. Some testimonials of hers mention "she reboots my system". That's what she did to Phoenix.
He seems to look up to her as a sort of priestess who awakened his potential. She's also the one who oriented him more towards healing and spirituality. As a kid, she tried to heal animals, and believed she had done so in a previous life. In a way, Phoenix is an Avyanna creation.
Phoenix Be:I realized (with her help) that my background in personal training and nutrition was an untapped resource that could help a lot of people. In 2016 I hung up my construction belt to practice full-time bodywork and coaching.
Phoenix now fancies himself an intellectual and an enlightened person, but while eloquent, he is more of a brawn-than-brains type. He was accepted to the U.S. Olympic swim team at a young age, he joined the army, worked in construction, was a personal fitness trainer, and his main occupation is massage therapy. He has done physical jobs most of his life, and now wants to reinvent himself as a nutritionist and spiritual coach.
Phoenix and Avyanna both sign their emails with "In Optimal Health,", a phrase they repeat like a mantra.
Aajonus' "Healthfully," or "Healthfully and appreciatively," signature was more humble, more casual.
Of course, Avyanna is in charge of the Primal Diet Coaching women groups.
Phoenix is still, in some aspects, an immature person, even childish at times.
This sequence is an example:
This blog post title is another example, where he makes a questionable pun:
The name he chose for his organization, "Primal Planitz", is ridiculous.
Sometimes, Phoenix speaks about himself in the third person in his correspondence, which is a combination of preachiness and of arrogance.
When you look at Phoenix's face on this photo, he has a particular expression.
Perhaps I should not be saying this, but in spite of the harm he has caused to people, to the movement, and to me, cynically using Jim Ellingson's death, all these things, it pains me to see this man show such faith and reverence towards what he sees as his source of meaning, the person who gives him hope.
I know that his intentions are not evil, that he is only trying to find happiness and meaning in his life, and maybe even help others, whatever mental gymnastics may be going through his mind.
Still, the fact remains that his actions are objectively harmful, and that he made himself the accomplice of a criminal abuser, jeopardizing Aajonus' movement, misleading people, scamming them and, according to Aajonus' teachings, harming their health with some of his advice.
Even for his own good, he must be stopped. He might or might not find the peace he desires afterwards, but this path he is on is false and can only keep bringing destruction. The light at the end of the tunnel he is seeking is not there.
Right now, Phoenix knows he is losing many people, partners and supporters, due to my articles. He keeps trying to outgrow the people he is losing, by contacting different influencers on social media, some with dozens of thousands of followers. Then I contact them, and they stop supporting him. Then he contacts more. He also appears in as many events as possible, like carnivore or traditional eating events. Phoenix hopes he will grow fast enough to reach a critical mass this way. This is a foolish plan, but he is committed. His other goal is to raise 3 million dollars from investors to purchase land and create his community with farms, a clinic, and so on.
He has skills in organizing events, possibly in farming, in speaking, and he looks quite good for his age, without a doubt thanks to the half-Primal Diet he has done for 20 years.
To this day, Phoenix lacks direction. The impressive list of credentials on Phoenix's website is not necessarily a good sign, when several items contradict each other, such as Ayurveda and Primal Diet. He is a "jack of all trades, master of none", and he didn't produce a synthesis, but a melting pot.
Phoenix's beliefs are also a melting post, and unclear.
The logo of his "Primal Diet Coaching" seems to have Hindu influences, with the symbol being a cow, a sacred animal in Hinduism, which has a red mark on the forehead.
Phoenix's Signal group named "Fat Cattle Kingdom" also oddly sounds like cow worship, although it may not be, but that's what this strange name can evoke.
Phoenix is also waiting for "the fall of Rome", which is an unclear reference.
Phoenix has other ties to Hinduism, through Ayurveda.
The logo of his and his wife's organization, Blossom&Be, combines a lotus with crescent moon symbolism, drawing again from Hinduisms, and perhaps New Age spirituality.
Even his websites are a mess. He has as least 5 different ones, many repeating the same content:
Blossom & Be
— Phoenix and his wife Avyanna's wellness retreat in Asheville, NC,
offering therapeutic bodywork, life and relationship coaching, and various healing modalities.
primaldietcoaching.com
— Phoenix's coaching platform selling Primal Diet coaching services and educational resources.
primalplanitz.com
— Phoenix's lifestyle brand promoting the Primal Diet through coaching,
conferences, farm education, and community events.
healthfreedomnetwork.org
— A membership community platform centered on health autonomy and medical-choice advocacy.
He wants to be a spiritual leader, a successor to Aajonus who will surpass him, and an influential figure who will save the world, and create "Heaven on Earth".
None of these might happen, but they surely won't happen with his current direction. He is only wasting our precious time, and causing needless damage.
This man needs to be stopped, along with the other people around him.
It is difficult to reason with people who believe they have a manifest destiny, and live in such delusional states. Everyone who tries is ignored.
I have also been told that Phoenix doesn't read my articles. Considering he has lost many partners over it, and that thousands of people have read them, this is yet another sign of his delusional state where he thinks reality has to bend to his narrative, and he can freely ignore what inconveniences him, and double down.
When Phoenix presented himself as the official successor to Aajonus, trying to force it through with an unhinged story, using the death of Jim Ellingson, this came as a shock to several people, but it was entirely predictable given what I explained about his motives and his mental state.
He is so desperate to prove to himself he has indeed been reborn, that he must at all costs accomplish his perceived destiny as a proof of it. The end justifies the means, even siding with Chris' criminal abuse—which objectively just drags him down— and tarnishing Aajonus' legacy.
In his eyes, it is not only a matter of personal fulfillment, he has also convinced himself that for the greater good of humanity, he must succeed, so nobody has the right to stop him, even if he has to do unethical things.
Most importantly, Phoenix cannot stop. If he stops now, he will not only fail, and not have another such opportunity to rise and accomplish what he perceives is his glorious destiny, but his reputation will be severely damaged.
And he will have to confront his own dysfunctionality, which is what he is trying to escape from by doing all of this, all the lies he told himself to sustain the current identity he has built.
This is a message to Phoenix, who I heard hasn't read my articles, despite discussing them on calls with others for hours, but who will hopefully in a moment of lucidity read this:
Mihaly, Phoenix, Vince, you are a crazy scammer.
You are not the savior of the world, and you will not create Heaven on Earth.
I guarantee you this.
This doesn't matter anyway, because the salvation you are looking for will not be found in what you are doing. You cannot succeed and find meaning through lying, cheating, compromising your integrity, and denying reality. You are in a headlong rush that will inevitably end in a crash, and the more you postpone it, the more damage there will be in the end.
You traded your dysfunctionality for something even worse.
You are hurting the people you claim to want to help, who have trusted you, who looked up to you, and the people who are performing the work you claim to do. You are hurting a movement that is important for mankind.
If you are brave, you will face the truth on your own terms, cease the sunk costs, acknowledge your errors and do what you know is right.
These are my demands towards Phoenix and his group:
Phoenix should publish a public announcement on his websites and newsletter that includes:
Journalists have contacted me after finding my content on this website. They are aware of all the scandals going on regarding the unreleased Aajonus data, the scamming, and the abuse, and how they all fit together.
Share this page around. Many people have learned about the Phoenix and Chris scandals through comments made on their posts.
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These are testimonies from people who read my previous articles about Phoenix, or talked to me about him.
The distinction is very important. Someone who says, "Pay me for coaching; I know better than Aajonus," is easily identified. It's not as dishonest; people know what they are getting.
Scammers who lie about being official successors, or the only legitimate representatives of the Primal Diet, or who become extremely abusive to keep scamming, are the worst cases. Chris, Phoenix, and Leo are in that latter category and they all work together.
I have been asked about whether people should go to the conference. I don't want to give a yes or no answer, but here are some considerations.
Overall, cutting their money supply is the most effective way to stop them. However, my main concern is that they do not get promoted to new people, regardless of who goes there.
It is also useful for a couple people to go there to warn the other participants, and report back with information.
Overall, if you really want to go there, go for social reasons (the meetup), not coaching, and please do not promote them. If you go there, share the information, and warn others who are there. Call them out, with cold factual evidence, if you feel like it.
If Phoenix contacts you for investment in his land/farm/clinic project, consider the following.
Phoenix claims to want to create a healthy, happy community, but promotes abusers who harass men and women alike, launder their reputations, and defend them with NDAs against their victims.
You can see on this page in detail how Phoenix handled the Chris "eatrawmeat" abuse situation.
He needs to acknowledge his wrongdoings and enact concrete changes. That will fix most of the issues, even if I still think he is unfit to be in a position of leadership in this realm.
No, I hoped Phoenix would not be yet another problem. I also tried to solve the situation amiably for weeks. Even a year later, I offered the best possible deal I could to them.
However, Phoenix's intents are the ones that should be scrutinized, as I have shown.
The most important thing is to stop promoting them.
The second most important thing is to share the information.
The third one is to make Phoenix and his crew accountable, requesting them to address it and fix the issues.