Download the Primal Diet™ books for free:
A complete biography of Aajonus Vonderplanitz, following his life year by year, based on his own words, on news articles, and on testimonies from people who knew him. An excellent introduction if you wish to know more about Aajonus and how he came to develop the Primal Diet.
The most complete guide to the Primal Diet™. Although completely free, it's the best material for people looking to get started and for experienced people alike, whether you want to follow it 20% or 100%. Aajonus revised his books once in 2005; this book, although not made by him, incorporates all the subsequent massive amount of information that he discovered for the rest of his life afterwards.
Antal gained 3.5cm at 29 years old, reversed white hair, and quadrupled his sales with his newfound energy. This was only after 1.3 years on the Primal Diet.
The best part? He didn't even get coached 1:1, he followed The Primal DietTM book, which allowed him to follow Aajonus' diet in the most advanced way from the start and avoid all the pitfalls that make people fail and quit after having sustained damage.
He then joined the @primaldiet Telegram group where he shared his testimony:
Here is the photo of his white hair reversing.
Aajonus' two books can be purchased in physical edition on the-primal-diet.com (currently out of stock), or on Amazon and eBay from third parties.
Watch out: Some Amazon and eBay resellers add notes telling you not to listen to Aajonus.
Warning: those books were last updated by Aajonus in 2005, and he mysteriously died in 2013. So they are partially outdated. Download Rom's book "The Primal Diet" for up-to-date information based on all of Aajonus' material.
Several of the leading AI LLM model providers allow customization and have been trained on Aajonus' material:
After comparisons were made, the most accurate one is currently Google's NotebookLM. It has more limited external capacities (doesn't process images or browse the web) but sticks very closely to the source material, and always cites it, visibly with 0 hallucinations, and with good enough reasoning although the context window is not infinite, it takes more time to answer because of that. For simple questions, it is 90% more than enough, for more complex ones, there is room for improvement.
⚠️ WARNING Those AI LLM tools are not perfect and make mistakes, sometimes you will get very accurate answers, other times complete nonsense.
Since the 23rd of November 2024, the campaign has gained significant traction and support.
Read its presentation below or click on the first below to directly go to the campaign status page.
Aajonus wrote two main books, We Want To Live in 1997 and The Recipe for Living Without Disease in 2002.
From 2002 to 2013, the year he died, he was working on at least four whole new books, especially: his major book on detoxification.
It has now been 11 years since Aajonus died, and neither this new book, nor most of the other unpublished works, data from his recovered hard drive, as well as other data collected from his clients, which are numerous, have been released by the official primaldiet.net organization.
The organization could have sold the new books, and made money from them, just like they sell the old ones, but they have not. And do not plan to.
That's not all, Aajonus gave classes on iridology and palm reading, his diagnosis tools, that he created to train students to be his successors or collaborators.
These haven't been released either.
Nor were the papers of his experiments that he spent over a million dollars on,
that are still sitting on his hard drive.
When Aajonus passed in 2013, the people in charge of the organization wrote the following:
"In the coming months his work will be compiled and organized".
Note: wewant2live.com is the old address of the official organization's website, now primaldiet.net
11 years later, the highly anticipated detoxification book, even unfinished, and most of the other information, are still not released.
Why did they announce they would do it, and then didn't do it?
Paul is the official owner. He was the publisher of Aajonus' books, and when Aajonus died, he inherited his two trusts, Optimal Ways of Living, and Right To Choose Healthy Foods. He decided to appoint Jim as manager in the organization. Jim recently retired after the start of this campaign.
Jim Ellingson, who was in charge of operations in the organization, told people to NOT share potentially life-saving information.
Jim Ellingson
Old organization manager
Here is an example, where Jim received a thick blood remedy directly from Aajonus, and tells someone to not share it.
Jim tells people to not share the remedy, even though the organization is not selling it. Why?
The organization is gatekeeping Aajonus' information, preventing people from accessing it.
They also asked people from the community to give them data about their consults with Aajonus, which are extremely important to learn about Aajonus' unique iridology process, then never released anything.
For example, 3 years ago, a woman from the community wrote in one of the Facebook groups that she had a recording of her and her family's consults with Aajonus, and wanted to share it with everyone. She asked who to send it to.
She was about to share it to the community admins, but Jim and Paul intervened, and then this recording was never published.
The organization is not only gatekeeping information they inherited from Aajonus, but even other people's information that doesn't belong to the organization, taken away from the community!
The new unpublished detoxification book is real, and there is a plethora of proof that confirms it.
It is confirmed without a doubt that the detoxification book Aajonus was working on is real.
Jim was asked about the unpublished books.
In a conversation in 2018 where there were several back and forths,
he stopped replying when asked about the books.
Here are sourced quotes where Aajonus mentions the existence of this book, its content, and the importance of it:
Aajonus:
Here, Aajonus gives details about the contents of the unpublished detoxification book. The information he quotes, about all the different fruits and their combinations, was never published anywhere, in all of Aajonus' currently available content. This is already a major piece of information that could help people and is being gatekept.
Aajonus:Okay, we're going to get started now. First, I'm going to tell you the book that I've been working on next is Detoxification. And I get a lot of people from the internet, you know, the Yahoo groups, who talk about heavy detoxification and doing heavy detoxification.
[...]
So in the detoxification book, I'm telling people how to gradually detoxify. And that's by taking those foods, how to ferment them and how to eat them and in what quantities.
[...]
So that's what I have to say about the detoxification. Before the book comes out, don't push anything too heavily. You've got to ferment something to detoxify.
[...]
That's what I mean. My detoxification book is going to get into foods that are fermented. They can start breaking these things down.
[...]
Yes, right, you can break it down. That's what my book is going to go into without hopefully not killing anybody.
Aajonus is literally mentioning how triggering detoxification can kill someone if it's done wrong.
This information is extremely important to have, to avoid people harming themselves when trying to follow the Primal Diet and doing detoxification protocols.
This information was never published anywhere and is exclusive to the detox book he was working on.
Attendee:So, would you suggest making cabbage juice once a month?
Aajonus:No, I'm not going to get into that. It's so specific. You know, it's a control to keep yourself from going off the deep end. That's why I'm writing the next book, the Detoxification Book. That's going to probably be Christmas.
Attendee:I'm excited.
Here again, Aajonus says how triggering detoxification can be deadly.
Aajonus:Well, I'm going to, my next book is going to be on detoxification. I literally talked the publisher into giving me two different covers and two different titles. One of them will be called Eat Shit And Live. You know how well that book will sell? And everybody thinks it's going to be a comedy. But it will introduce them to a whole new concept, a whole new behavior.
Right. But I've been thinking about writing one as a comedy, the whole book as a comedy as well as a regular. I could also show people my work.
Attendee:Did you get rid of the effects of those shots?
Aajonus:
This last quote is from 2011! Only 2 years before Aajonus' death.
Aajonus was working on this detoxification book alone for over 7 years at least.
By the looks of it, it was going to be Aajonus' magnum opus, and he was highly anticipating it.
At the end of his first book, which was published in 1997, Aajonus talked about his future research on the promising health benefits of herbs.
Aajonus:POSTSCRIPT
I have been very limited in financial resources to fund my experiments and research over the years. But I did them. Although my results with reversing disease have been extraordinary, I know that my work has the potential to achieve even more remarkable results by incorporating fresh raw herbs. I will continue my work in this direction. That involves obtaining funding, seeds, bulbs and rooted cuttings, to grow therapeutic herbs so that we may use them fresh and raw. If anyone has access to funding, herbal seeds, bulbs and rooted cuttings, please contact me at: Optimal Ways of Living, P.O. Box 176, Santa Monica, CA 90291. Your donations will be utilized well and appreciated. Thank you.
It is also very likely this could be part of the detoxification book that is withheld from the public by the organization.
This is only in addition to the wealth of new content Aajonus explicitly confirmed he would put in his new book.
At the end of Aajonus' second book, the recipe book, there are more mentions of the new books in the works, including the detoxification book.
Editor:At present, he is fighting for our rights to have raw food and writing 4 more nutritional books: one on detoxification, two of questions and answers from lectures, one on changing food laws, and an update and revision of The Primal Diet; We Want To Live (the basic changes are in this book).
Where is the book on changing food laws? Another one that didn't get published. How many more are there?
It is confirmed Aajonus was hosting classes where he was teaching students his techniques from observation, his diagnosis process.
This is crucial information for people to learn how to apply the Primal Diet based on their specific needs and take care of themselves.
Here are sourced quotes where Aajonus mentions the existence of these classes:
Aajonus:Sometimes when you hear me say these bizarre things like bile in the skin, I have had classes where I am teaching people my techniques from observation. I can’t say diagnosis because I am not an MD. An MD in California can diagnose. So I analyze. So when I am analyzing, some of the students that I have had cannot see what I see.
Aajonus:
In an email asking him about these classes, Jim said he was not aware of any classes.
Jim:Hello! It makes sense to me what you are asking.
I seriously wish we had what you are looking for.
I am not aware that he ever did a seminar on this subject.
It was his plan to hold a 3 year internship
on his property in Thailand regarding strict application of all aspects of the Primal Diet. Iridology would have been a big part of this. He showed me the blueprint for the building in which this was to occur. The building never got built and the internship never occurred.
We have no official answer at this time. One day we may offer for a few select students of the Primal Diet an opportunity to look at some iris photos and read the accompanying notes or transcript that goes with them. We are nowhere near this stage yet.Email from November 2023
This is extremely hard to believe,
but the part of Jim's email that is even more outrageous is the last sentence:
"One day we may offer for a few select students of the Primal Diet
an opportunity to look at some iris photos
and read the accompanying notes or transcript that goes with them.
We are nowhere near this stage yet."
How is it possible that they are "nowhere near this stage yet"?
It has been 11 years since Aajonus passed.
Why would only a "few select students" be allowed to access these notes?
What can justify this gatekeeping and laziness?
Jim and the organization are sitting on countless hours of Aajonus' consults. They have only published one years after Aajonus' death.
Jim said in an email he is withholding the consults until people buy "enough" products.
His other argument for not releasing these iridology consults is that it would require the authorization. He had 11 years to ask people's authorizations for it. There is no excuse.
It is a lie because as previously shown with the person who volunteered in the community to make her consults public, Jim and Paul hoarded it and it was never published.
During the massive Covid19 vaccination campaign, Aajonus' new book on detoxification could have been extremely useful to help people detoxify from the injections, and prevent the terrible side effects and deaths that have occured.
This quote is strong evidence of it:
Aajonus:
Yet, the organization did nothing, they didn't promote the Primal Diet at all, and they didn't even publish those books.
In Aajonus' absence, it was the community that did all the work.
Since last year, aajonus.net, run by someone from the community, not affiliated with the official organization, sponsored the transcription of more audio files in a year than the official organization has done in 18 years.
For a total of 139 new transcriptions in total:
In comparison, the official website is extremely small, and incomplete. All of this was achieved without the organization, in a fraction of the time.
The community is paying out of their pockets to process Aajonus' information and make it available, while the organization is doing close to nothing and gatekeeping it.
Jim and his organization are poor caretakers of Aajonus' legacy.
One year after Aajonus died, the organization lost aajonus.com and primaldiet.com.
They didn't pay to renew the domain names.
This is extreme incompetence,
and shows how little they care about Aajonus' legacy,
letting hoarders take the main domain names.
Jim and the organization have been making money thanks to new people that have been coming to the Primal Diet, brought by the efforts of people in the community.
The people who are not part of the organization, are the ones who have been growing the Primal Diet community, and graciously promoting the products of the organization.
Money that the Aajonus' trust received was supposed to go to the realization of projects, but none of those projects were ever realized despite announcements. Where did the money go?
With Aajonus’ passing in 2013, the owner and or owners of the PrimalDiet.net website inherited Aajonus’ trust, Optimal Ways of Living, OWL for short.
OWL trust:The purpose of this trust shall be working to heal people to further world peace…
https://www.primaldiet.net/remembering-aajonus/
The trust was supposed to be used to fund projects that would further the Primal Diet and health-promoting knowledge:
OWL trust:OWL pursues its lofty goal by making information available about the ways and means to reverse disease, rejuvenate health and prevent disease through diet.
https://www.primaldiet.net/remembering-aajonus/
Here the trust statement mentions making information available, which is not being done when it comes to all the unpublished works of Aajonus.
OWL trust:Ongoing plans to facilitate the goal include continuing research and experimentation with food as it affects health, and publishing this pertinent information. OWL will publish, acquire land and create clinical spas that further develop health-promoting knowledge. OWL will solicit donations and engage in ecologically safe enterprise to fund its needs and goals.
https://www.primaldiet.net/remembering-aajonus/
Here the trust statement mentions doing new research and creating clinics, which has not been done either.
There is no evidence that the trust has been used for any of these goals.
What was the money used for, if not for this?
Why are they not releasing the new books and other information that Aajonus was working on? Those do not require any funding to be released, in fact these new documents could have been sold as new products to fund the trust and start the new projects of research and opening clinics.
The primaldiet.net website already sells Aajonus' old books, DVDs, audios, etc., which is how they have been making money throughout all these years.
Recently, the organization has woken up from not making enough money anymore, and started a coaching service.
Phoenix Be
Coaching manager appointed by Paul
The community has already provided top-tier coaching for free in the meanwhile, and done the work the organization should have been doing, of making articles and compilations of Aajonus' works and teachings.
At the very least, since the organization is in possession of exclusive data from Aajonus, new books, many unpublished iridology consults, you would expect them to be able to provide a good coaching service.
They don't.
In fact, it is so terrible that they do not know the basics and go against the teachings of Aajonus, while pretending to be his successors who will take his work further.
This is what they post on the front page of their coaching website:
Aajonus already took his own work further, but they are refusing to publish it. They are incapable of understanding his works, as they have shown multiple times, yet claim to be his so-called successors.
In a conference that cost a premium to attend, they are misleading people by going against one of the most important teachings of Aajonus, who warns against frozen meat.
Aajonus spent thousands of dollars to prove in a lab experiment that freezing is very harmful to meat, damages 80% of its nutrition, which is extremely high, and generates toxins.
He explicitly said:
It is also very clearly stated in his book:
Aajonus:FROZEN FOOD: Freezing, like cooking, destroys nutrients. The colder foods get, the more nutrients are destroyed. Therefore it is always healthier to eat foods that have never been frozen. The nutrients in meat are especially harmed by freezing. The protein in raw meat that has been frozen is only 25% utilizable in the human body, whereas in fresh raw meat, the protein is nearly 100% utilizable. Freezing meat causes the Escherichia coli bacterium (E. coli) in meat to flourish quickly. When only frozen meat was fed to carnivores, they developed mange and other skin disorders, and sometimes scurvy. When the same meat unfrozen was fed to carnivores, they remained healthy and happy. See Refrigeration, page 197. Some fats, like raw cream and butter, seem to maintain well when frozen for short periods. See Ice cream, page 189.
Aajonus even contested the exact "argument" that Phoenix is giving in his speech about eskimos.
Aajonus:A couple of raw fooders out here use the example of the Inuits eating frozen fish, etc., as an OK for eating meat that has been frozen.
Normally, the Inuit ate the fish frozen no longer than 5 minutes to 24 hours. Given the longevity of other animals on non frozen raw diets, the Inuits should have lived to 140 years. The Inuits lived to the same ages as we do. This frozen- factor may be the entire basis for a shortening of lifespan.
There are also people on the diet who report adverse effects from eating frozen meat, it is not only Aajonus who was saying it.
Yet they are telling people the opposite, without any proof, in Aajonus' own organization, to the people who are paying them to learn about his works.
Here is the experiment Aajonus did to prove that frozen meat is toxic:
Aajonus:Go back to those tests I did with dogs and cats. When I fed them frozen organic meat, I got a whole side, split it in a quarter and I took sections of each and put them in two different categories and I froze one category. Every part of the animal. And I froze one quarter of the animal and then another quarter of the beef I did not freeze. I fed it to these animals for 6 weeks and some of them even up to 10. After 6 weeks every one of them had a skin disorder, who ate it frozen. Plus they were drinking, two to three, four cups of water a day. The dogs and cats that ate the meat non frozen, same meat unfrozen, even slightly getting stinky by the time at the end, at the end of the experiment, they rarely licked any water and they were in perfect health. Calm and happy. Other dogs were scratching, the cats were scratching and one even had mange from it. And it showed me that frozen meat is toxic. So not a good thing to eat. Now I knew that butter remedies any skin condition. And I had this argument with a lot of these people who think they know something and never go into a freakin' laboratory. Sally Fallons one of them, says “oh, freezing doesn't hurt your meat or hurt your dairy” so I took these animals and I fed them from the same batch of butter, frozen butter and unfrozen butter. The animals, the sick groups, they split them into two and I sent the frozen butter to one group and the other to the other. Those who got the frozen butter took five times longer to heal their skin condition. Five times longer!! If you break that down into a statistic, that's 80% of the nutrients were destroyed. Or unutilizable, whatever that was.
Audio proof, listen:
Note: This experiment exists, and is on the hard drives that the organization is in possession of.
Aajonus was planning to publish the details of his experiments such as this one in his new book on detoxification, as proven by the following quote:
Attendee:I'm just wondering, down the road or at some point, if you'll be able to put into print all these wonderful experiments that you've done and cause you to...
Aajonus:
There are many more experiments like this one that Aajonus did, as he said he spent over a million dollars on them:
Aajonus:
In an age when people like Bryan Johnson have gotten traction because of spending millions on scientific experiments and publishing the results, why is the organization not releasing this information?
Bryan Johnson even asked the community-run (not part of the official organization, who hasn't done almost anything for 11 years) Primal Diet account for data on Twitter/X.
It is not a gross mistake, it is pursposeful misinformation about Primal Diet.
They have a paid video called "Detox is not a disease", which by the title alone shows they have no idea about Aajonus' teachings.
Aajonus made two books with the purpose of teaching people that disease IS detoxification, a disease is a healing process where the body is getting rid of toxins.
Aajonus:
What Aajonus teaches through his books is that disease is not something to be feared, and giving the body the right food and environment will help accompany the detoxification process so it is smooth and efficient, with the least amount of collateral damage incurred.
They are telling people the opposite in the title alone, misleading people who are paying them to learn about Aajonus' works.
On top of this, the video costs $40, which is more expensive than Aajonus' book!
They outright lie on their page about following Aajonus' works, they are actually subverting them.
Several people in the community have reported that after paying the organization to answer a question they had, the answer given by the organization is completely off, with irrelevant information, or that they don't know, further showing the organization has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to Primal Diet.
The organization is therefore running a scam coaching business, while charging a premium for it ($250 for a 1h30 call to get worse guidance than you can get in passionate online groups for free), adding insult to injury with the fact that they are gatekeeping Aajonus' vital unpublished works, and pretending to be his successor.
These are their prices:
On this page of their coaching website, Phoenix is misappropriating the Primal Diet name, unethically promoting his personal business Blossom & Be", even though it is as a whole not related to Primal Diet.
Several of Phoenix's practices are not in line with Aajonus' teachings, others are not validated by Aajonus, so they can't be claimed to be part of the Primal Diet either.
Take a look at how Phoenix is copying a page from Aajonus' recipe book, and putting his "Blossom&Be" signature on it, when he had no involvement at all in the creation of Aajonus' book.
This is just a page from Aajonus' book, yet he is putting an ad for his business on it.
In marketing, this is called a funnel.
Phoenix is trying to funnel people from the Primal Diet to his own business.
It doesn't stop here.
Phoenix changes even further the doctrine of Primal Diet itself, yet again.
This is the other document that is available on the "official Primal Diet coaching" page:
Aajonus never said that these rules of Ayurveda were part of Primal Diet. Those are Phoenix's own beliefs, that he is injecting as official Primal Diet material, without even any disclaimer that Aajonus never approved of them.
Some of this content even goes severaly against Aajonus' teachings.
Aajonus warned against "eating when hungry".
That's very dangerous advice according to him,
because high toxicity can make you lose your appetite.
In the worst cases, people who are severely toxic can stop eating entirely, and die.
Aajonus recommends raw eggs and papaya custards when there is a lack of appetite,
even to force-feed if necessary, and to completely avoid fasting.
What is Phoenix doing?
Another example, still from this Ayuverda document, in the "Kapha" line, which says: eating butter "in moderation".
Can you guess what Aajonus' number one, most important, recommendation is?
To eat high quantities of raw butter.
Of raw animal fat, but especially of raw butter.
He says it's the number one thing, that he cannot stress it enough.
Phoenix is actually destroying the foundation of the Primal Diet,
when he says to not eat more butter than "in moderation".
There is no such thing in the Primal Diet, quite the opposite.
Phoenix also seems to be lying on the coaching website. At the bottom of the website, there is a section called "Specialities".
Note: Phoenix has the same specialities section on his personal "Blossom&Be" website.
In this "specialities" section, there is "lyme disease".
However, someone who talked with Phoenix 3 years ago reported that Phoenix said Primal Diet does not work well for lyme disease.
So why list it under the "specialities" of the so-called official Primal Diet coaching website, if Phoenix is also saying it doesn't work?
Something is not right here. And what is the validity of Phoenix's Primal Diet coaching if he doesn't have success with lyme disease?
Does he even know what lyme disease is? Aajonus says it's a smokescreen for accumualted medical and industrial toxicity.
Phoenix saying, reportedly, that he is struggling with "lyme disease" among his clients is another example of how he seems to have no clue at all about Aajonus' works and the Primal Diet.
A lot more could be said about their incompetence and their highly misleading material.
Phoenix's intent to change Primal Diet from inside, and replace it with his own beliefs, and turn people to his personal business, are clear.
Phoenix was given the right by the organization to run the coaching business, but while doing so, he is also taking control of many parts of the organization for his own goals.
Jim also attacked people who do the work he should have been doing.
In the main Facebook group, Jim almost never posts there, except to advertize his products. He doesn't help people, he doesn't moderate.
In 2020, a full guide about Primal Diet was released in the community, called "Primal Diet 101". It updated Aajonus' latest eating schedules with info found in the Q&As, laid out all the rules, and had a FAQ. It was the most comprehensive guide about the Primal Diet.
Shortly after, Jim made a video.
Since he posts rarely, it was the first project in a long time of the official website with its new domain primaldiet.net.
It was supposed to promote aajonus through the gathering of testimonials etc., a whole community project.
Jim posts his video as an example, but instead of being a testimonial, it is used to attack the guide.
Despite what he is saying, Jim is unable to even fix himself, his health is not good, and he doesn't know how to adapt his regimen.
So Jim used something that was supposed to promote the Primal Diet, to attack someone who did the work he should have been doing and who were promoting his products.
Many examples of how the community has promoted the organization's products, despite the lack of work done by the organization and its hostility:
The organization promotes abusers who hurt people in the community in what can be considered organized crime.
Chris, aka 'EatRawMeat'
Notorious abuser promoted by the organization
Chris aka "Eat Raw Meat", has run a vicious harassment and defamation campaign against innocent people in the community, telling his accomplices to leak the nude pictures of women for fun, encouraging people to leak addresses and stalk people at their homes for fun, encouraging people to make false accusations of pedophilia and sex trafficking, while himself being in cahoots with proven pedophiles who try to push women to suicide, destroying the community and the Primal Diet's reputation.
This is all detailed and substantiated with proof on the website eatrawmeat.online.
On that website, you can see at least 3 coaches left the project when they learned about Chris' actions and Phoenix covering up for him.
Despite having presented all the evidence, and having had to admit by email that the accusations are true, Phoenix didn't even make Chris take a backseat, and keeps forcing people to watch Chris' video as a prerequisite if they want to attend the paid meetings. All of this is explained on the website eatrawmeat.online.
Even Chris criticized Jim's greed, before he started to work with him:
Summary of the wrongful actions of the official organization:
Sign the petition to release Aajonus' unpublished works and other major information they are gatekeeping.
On Twitter/X, in only an hour, more than 50 people have voted for the release of the books, that is one more than person per minute:
Who would say no?
Exactly.
Demand the information to be published and their scamming and destruction of Aajonus' legacy on all levels to stop:
The official organization's contact information can be found on their website: primaldiet.net.
Not everyone in the organization might be satisfied with the status quo. Paul, Jim, and Phoenix are the ones who call the shots.
The organization's contact address is: facilitator@wewant2live.com.
Either Jim or now Phoenix reply to the emails sent to this address.
If they receive 100 emails from 100 people, they will know that a lot of people care about this. A backlash from the community is the only thing that can make them change their ways after years of them refusing to do so, including when people attempted to cooperate with them.
Update: our first wave of emails worked. Many people contacted them. They replied and important information came to light. Negotiations even started to sell the data. However, it isn't over. Read the update by clicking below:
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